At the risk of being labelled a swivel eyed remainer, there is a major problem with the fact that Leave didn't (because it could not) have a proper plan. Now suddenly everyone is saying what now?

The reasons people voted for Brexit are varied and the reality is that some people will be left deeply dissatisfied because whatever their particular reason was, things won't change.

The negotiations need to try and keep all Brexiters happy never mind any remainers

The low turnout for the under 24's is a real surprise to me. Both my kids are in that cohort and I know that they and their friends were highly engaged and all voted as far as I know. Nonetheless an excellent rebuttal to the bleading hearts.

I take umbrage that many infer all remainers are chucking toys! Some of us that voted remain came very close to voting leave as we didn't see the issue as black and white but a blurry grey with pros and cons either way.
I for one accept the result and think we should invoke article 50 asap. For what it's worth, I think Labour and Tory parties are in their own ways delaying this. Only Corbyn and probably Farage (as far as I know) are willing to look to carry out the will of the people as quickly as possible.
As it is it could be a while. God (not that he exists) knows what the rest of the world must think of the Uk at the moment.

We've made our democratically made bed. It's time to lie in it.

Edited by nickgusset (27 Jun 2016 2.52pm)

I think we should do this as and when we want to. This is what the EU never got, and still never gets. When it's our decision stop telling us what we must do.

No one in the EU can tell us to speed up, slow down or invoke it. It's our choice entirely, they know this as they wrote the article but they still want to dictate to us.

Edited by Stuk (27 Jun 2016 3.08pm)

Optimistic as ever

we're not in the Euro or Schengen - Cameron struck an admittedly unratified deal that we would be exempt from further integration and that immigrants would not be allowed to get welfare after they had contributed through income tax for several years. There is no 'club' that doesn't like 'us'. Boris and co will be negotiating for what we have NOW - he wants the single market which means free movement of people. If he wants to cut immigration he has to do it to non EU nationals. there was no 'progressive federalism or out'choice - I don't like the EU as an undemocratic force that is screwing Greece, and railroading integration too quickly, but are a lot of these problems are down to the crash not the EU and the EU has subsidised weaker economies massively and most people understand that that is a general benefit which increases consumer spending and our trade. We had the best of all worlds and we've just thrown it away for an abyss of uncertainty - a lot of leavers will give a massive sigh of relief if we renogotiate our way back into the single market - which will inevitably mean similar levels of EU migration to what we have. Where's the sense in that? Sorry I can't see it.

basically all I'm saying is 'I don't know' so I played safe and with all its problems voted in - if you know what we should do next great - but nobody does, lots of opinion not a lot of substance, if you don't know don't pretend to, and what I'm getting from leavers much more often than not is strong opinion with sketchy half-baked fact and that's not enough to make the leap we just have.