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View We are goin up!'s Profile We are goin up! Flag Coulsdon 28 Jun 16 10.32am Send a Private Message to We are goin up! Add We are goin up! as a friend

Originally posted by the_mcanuff_stuff

The whole organisation needs reform and it's ironic that the man who wanted to bring in (at least some) reform is the one leaving.

They should open up all of the senior post in Soho square for election and let e.g. the 92 league chairmen (I'm open to an alternative) decide.


I liked Greg Dyke, he actually appeared to try and change the organisation. Looks like he's given up trying, not sure I can blame him to be honest.

 


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View the_mcanuff_stuff's Profile the_mcanuff_stuff Flag Caterham 28 Jun 16 11.06am Send a Private Message to the_mcanuff_stuff Add the_mcanuff_stuff as a friend

The 6 most successful England managers of all time, by win% (6 because, this drags Hodgson in)

Manager Win % PPG
Fabio Capello 66.7 2.19
Alf Ramsey 61.1 2.07
Glenn Hoddle 60.7 2.04
Ron Greenwood 60.0 2.02
Sven-Göran Eriksson 59.7 2.04
Roy Hodgson 58.9 2.07

So the foreign managers seem to have done fine, according to the stats.

I'm all for getting an English manager, but not if it means we miss out on a superior foreign candidate who is available.

 

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Jossy Blair. He made the Glipton Grasshoppers successful.

 


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View pompeyeagle's Profile pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 28 Jun 16 11.19am Send a Private Message to pompeyeagle Add pompeyeagle as a friend

Redknapp says he's not interested but would he turn it down if offered the job? I doubt it. I'd give Hoddle another chance but I can't see that happening either.

 

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View Mr Fenandes's Profile Mr Fenandes Flag 28 Jun 16 11.20am Send a Private Message to Mr Fenandes Add Mr Fenandes as a friend

Originally posted by We are goin up!

I liked Greg Dyke, he actually appeared to try and change the organisation. Looks like he's given up trying, not sure I can blame him to be honest.

Greg Dyke's got a very shady past with privatising wings of the BBC to his own company, shutting down studios and renting to himself at huge expense to the taxpayer. Bent as a nine-bob note.

I want a manager who's got some balls to give the hairdryer treatment. Haven't had that for as long as I can remember. He'd NEVER take it but I'd like to see Fergie given a go.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 28 Jun 16 11.34am

Originally posted by OknotOK

Arguably this is (and has been for some time) England's problem. They are stuck in limbo, still believing they are a footballing giant and so unwilling to adapt their game to acknowledge that actually we're a middle weight (sorry mixing my metaphors now).

England don't feel they are able to come and play 8 at the back as some teams do against them, which means they are unlikely to ever progress against the big teams. But they're also not technically good enough to consistently dominate sides who are more tactically astute.

Southgate I think will get the job. Not on merit, but because he's a yes man and part of the setup already.

Neville is nearly as culpable as Hodgson for the current debacle. And his record at Valencia (which I am pretty sure he only took as a job because the FA/Hodgson said if he got some experience he was a shoe in for the England role when Woy stepped aside) shows he doesn't at the moment have the ability to be the manager.

Pardew shouldn't get it.

Allardyce would just give me more reason to not care about the England side. In fact I might start actively supporting the other team. Although if anyone in any seriousness mentions Harry dodgy-as-fcuk Redknapp I might actually throttle them through the screen.

Statistically - as has already been noted - Cappello and SGE were amongst our very best managers. I am definitely not wedded to an English manager, but I suspect the FA are. Which means Southgate (Eddie Howe has no real top level experience and wouldn't be trusted with the stupidly massive egos of the underperforming cr@p that played yesterday)

Edited by OknotOK (28 Jun 2016 9.38am)

That's if you buy into high win rates against non entities in qualifiers or pointless friendlies. It's not the criteria that makes a good England manager. It's like arguing Hodgson is a great manager because we won 10/10 in qualifying

Sven was crap. He had a fantastic era of players yet the England displays were poor and the end result was the same, whenever we came up against decent opposition in a tournament we came up short. We should have done alot more with all those players. Rooney, Owen, Rio, Terry, Sol, Lamps, Gerrard, Cole, Neville, Scholes, Beckham. To say he did great job is laughable

Capello was even worse. The 2010 World Cup was a disaster, the Algeria debacle culminating in the Germany thrashing was as low as the Iceland defeat. To argue a comfortable qualifying campaign makes up for that is, again, laughable.

You have to go back further to Hoddle and Robson to find the England managers who did well.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 28 Jun 16 11.37am

Originally posted by the_mcanuff_stuff

The 6 most successful England managers of all time, by win% (6 because, this drags Hodgson in)

Manager Win % PPG
Fabio Capello 66.7 2.19
Alf Ramsey 61.1 2.07
Glenn Hoddle 60.7 2.04
Ron Greenwood 60.0 2.02
Sven-Göran Eriksson 59.7 2.04
Roy Hodgson 58.9 2.07

So the foreign managers seem to have done fine, according to the stats.

I'm all for getting an English manager, but not if it means we miss out on a superior foreign candidate who is available.

So in your opinion or by looking at this statistic Fabio Capello was an excellent England manager who did a fantastic job and we should beg him to come back?

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 16 11.57am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

You have to go back further to Hoddle and Robson to find the England managers who did well.

You can add greedy Veneables.

I was gutted when I found out Hoddle put his foot in mouth. I remember exactly where I was and I immediately knew we were screwed.

We need a Koeman or Pochettino type.

 


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Hoof Hearted 28 Jun 16 12.03pm

Doesn't matter who we want.

The FA Old Farts will choose for us.... and high on their list of winning attributes will be the candidate's charm and etiquette.

Talent, Motivational Skills, ETC..... forget it.

 

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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Doesn't matter who we want.

The FA Old Farts will choose for us.... and high on their list of winning attributes will be the candidate's charm and etiquette.

Talent, Motivational Skills, ETC..... forget it.

Or who we get the English Players are not goodenough.

 


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Southgate - please god no, someone who thought they were a midfielder when everyone else knew he was just a defender. And don't even mention penalties with him.

Hoddle - again, no. His analysis of the match last night was awful. When we needed desire and toughness to beat Iceland, all he kept talking about was patience and the right ball.

Not sure whether he would interested, but what about Jurgen the German.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 28 Jun 16 12.48pm

Originally posted by Crystal_Clear

Southgate - please god no, someone who thought they were a midfielder when everyone else knew he was just a defender. And don't even mention penalties with him.

Hoddle - again, no. His analysis of the match last night was awful. When we needed desire and toughness to beat Iceland, all he kept talking about was patience and the right ball.

Not sure whether he would interested, but what about Jurgen the German.

er, He's German?

Hoddle's analysis of the game is very articulate and insightful, he's a very good pundit and you won't find a better, more knowledgeable exponent of the game

 


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