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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 05 Jul 16 3.47pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

......as Nick is teaching 'One on One' should you not class (pun)that as being a Sub contractor?

Amazing what these middle class parents will pay for finger painting now days....

 


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Originally posted by Jimenez

......as Nick is teaching 'One on One' should you not class (pun)that as being a Sub contractor?

No. A bona fide sub-contractor has to provide cover for absent labour, rather than telling it's clients tough titties.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Jul 16 4.10pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Amazing what these middle class parents will pay for finger painting now days....

It's through Croydon council. They're still responsible for educating kids even if not in school. of the ones I'm teaching, 1 can't attend school as she has cancer. The others have been excluded. The tuition is part of gradual reintegration to the mainstream.

That said I am looking towards private tuition. Can get around 30 quid an hour.

As for the strike fund, you have to jump through a lot of hoops to qualify so really it's a total myth that all teachers get paid regardless.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Jul 16 4.13pm

Originally posted by Stuk

You seem to have overlooked the contradiction I pointed out.

Unions can provide strike pay.

It's about national pay scales. Getting rid of these leads to sink schools that find it difficult to get staff.

That's why pay scales were introduced in the first place.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

It's through Croydon council. They're still responsible for educating kids even if not in school. of the ones I'm teaching, 1 can't attend school as she has cancer. The others have been excluded. The tuition is part of gradual reintegration to the mainstream.

That said I am looking towards private tuition. Can get around 30 quid an hour.

As for the strike fund, you have to jump through a lot of hoops to qualify so really it's a total myth that all teachers get paid regardless.

No one said all teachers get paid but you put "Teachers are on strike annoy parents and lose a days pay to do so" which implies all of them lose a day's pay. You've just confirmed otherwise.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

It's about national pay scales. Getting rid of these leads to sink schools that find it difficult to get staff.

That's why pay scales were introduced in the first place.

So it's about pay then.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Jul 16 4.27pm

Originally posted by Stuk

No one said all teachers get paid but you put "Teachers are on strike annoy parents and lose a days pay to do so" which implies all of them lose a day's pay. You've just confirmed otherwise.

Nit picking. Greenwich Nut have over 2000 members. Not one has applied for hardship / strike payment.

I'd imagine that less than 0.0001% nationally have done so, I was told it was less than that last time.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Nit picking. Greenwich Nut have over 2000 members. Not one has applied for hardship / strike payment.

I'd imagine that less than 0.0001% nationally have done so, I was told it was less than that last time.

So they're feckless and annoying.

I don't care how many do, it's wrong to say that they all lose a day's pay. And none of the NUT staff that join in do.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Jul 16 4.31pm

Originally posted by Stuk

So it's about pay then.

Not in the 'we are striking for more pay ' sense.

The strike is about cuts to education funding. Overtesting of children leading to the demise of a broad and balanced curriculum and leading towards teaching to the test. People say they want children to have a good all round education that readies children for life after school. All we are doing is filling them with facts. No room for developing critical thinking skills and problem solving in primary schools now. A national disgrace.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Jul 16 4.33pm

Originally posted by Stuk

So they're feckless and annoying.

I don't care how many do, it's wrong to say that they all lose a day's pay. And none of the NUT staff that join in do.

If you say so. I could day the earth orbits the sun and you'd pick holes in it Stuk.

Go and teach for a term then come back and say teachers are feckless and annoying.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Not in the 'we are striking for more pay ' sense.

The strike is about cuts to education funding. Overtesting of children leading to the demise of a broad and balanced curriculum and leading towards teaching to the test. People say they want children to have a good all round education that readies children for life after school. All we are doing is filling them with facts. No room for developing critical thinking skills and problem solving in primary schools now. A national disgrace.

I'll refer you to you own post and points 2, 3 & 4.

Teacher's do not go on strike for any reason other than pay or working conditions, they certainly don't do it for the sake of the children.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

If you say so. I could day the earth orbits the sun and you'd pick holes in it Stuk.

Go and teach for a term then come back and say teachers are feckless and annoying.

Takes a year, not a day.

You must've been had many, many jobs in banking if you think that's how criticism works.

 


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