They'll claim they 'were in fear of their lives', the police union, county and state authorities will close ranks around them, and rubber stamp any inquiries, which will generally be held without independent oversight, and involve interested parties who's own political ambitions have a vested interest in the support of the police.

We think the PCC is biased and rigged (75% of investigators are ex-Police), its nothing compared to how inquests into police shootings are conducted in the US

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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The first guy, the one who had threatened to shoot the homeless guy. I have been to America and have family out there. Never had a problem with police, but I've never threatened anyone with a illegal firearm.
I hold no one to a higher standard than I do myself. If I carry a gun and threaten to shoot people.,, then I deserve to be shot by popo.
If this ever happens let the police read the above. It will be my fault and my fault alone. I will leave $100 in my will for the cop that shot me... He can take his family out for a meal as way of apology.

In my professional realm I hold myself to a very high standard, and expect others to be able to perform their job with expert proficiency and competence. If I hired a solicitor, I would expect them to do a much better job of handling the law, than I could.

So, I would hold a police officer, to display a higher degree of competence, professionalism that I would not display in the same situation.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Another such incident today [Link]

I assumed it was the same one but its a different guy

Some cops act out of fear for their lives, but there is a wider culture of going completely OTT in even standard arrests. They're always throwing people down telling them not to struggle when they are doing no such thing. Nevermind these two cases, there are countless videos where unarmed people are killed by police when the situation was either over nothing to begin with, or could've been deescalated.

It's definitely a profession you can enter if you like controlling others and lashing out often without consequence. That taints the reputation of the great many decent cops they are too which is unfair. Hopefully when every cop has a bodycam, that will help matters as there will be a clearer picture of how both parties have behaved. I appreciate that some situations are ambiguous though. The gun situation clearly feeds into it as you say, but its America so that's never going to change.

Edited by blackpalacefan (07 Jul 2016 7.48pm)

I agree... With gun culture, you're always gonna get incidents like the aforementioned. I stand by my comment that if you threaten to shoot someone with a illegal firearm... It's hard to have sympathy for you ending up dead.