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 Michaelawt85  Bexley 27 Jul 16 2.29pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Something like 20% of the population will suffer some form of mental illness during their lifetimes. Problem is, you can't reasonably determine who is a threat to society until they actually do something. People with depression right through to full blown psychosis, aren't by default dangerous. Someone with Bi-Polar disorder is as dangerous as someone with schizophrenia, its much more about the social circumstances. Incidentally, the mentally ill are far more likely to be killed or assaulted by people who aren't mentally ill, than be the culprit of murder or assault. Took the words right out of my mouth. You also run a very real risk of people not being completely honest about thoughts they may be having for fear of being locked up for the rest of their natural days
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| Michaelawt85 Bexley 27 Jul 16 2.31pm |
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Originally posted by premier fan
A lot of these attacks around the world do seem to be implemented by persons with known mental instability. I understand care in the community but perhaps we should be considering dangers in the community and keeping known 'nut jobs' as you put it locked up permanently? A bit Victorian but otherwise look at the consequences. Please , in your own words , define which mental disorders meet the description of 'nut job's
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 premier fan BR4 27 Jul 16 3.14pm |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
Please , in your own words , define which mental disorders meet the description of 'nut job's I've no idea I didn't coin the phrase 'nut jobs' on here.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 27 Jul 16 9.16pm |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
Please , in your own words , define which mental disorders meet the description of 'nut job's I used the word nut job originally. I fully accept that there issues around mental care. I have and still occasionally do work with people who have problems BUT anyone who does what he did is a nut job
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| Stuk Top half 27 Jul 16 9.17pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I used the word nut job originally. I fully accept that there issues around mental care. I have and still occasionally do work with people who have problems BUT anyone who does what he did is a nut job Yeah. When they start getting stabby and murderous it definitely defines nut job.
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| Michaelawt85 Bexley 28 Jul 16 10.09am |
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Originally posted by premier fan
I've no idea I didn't coin the phrase 'nut jobs' on here. My apologies
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| Michaelawt85 Bexley 28 Jul 16 10.12am |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I used the word nut job originally. I fully accept that there issues around mental care. I have and still occasionally do work with people who have problems BUT anyone who does what he did is a nut job But then it comes back to the same argument that we can only ever be reactive and lock up 'nut job's after they have attempted to or succeeded in harming someone. The holy grail in mental health has to be prevention . When do murderous thoughts become a desire to act on them and finally am executed plan and how do we deal with these people. If we locked up everyone who had violant thoughts the world would be a much quieter place. There's no crime against thoughts. But when they lead further... Edited by Michaelawt85 (28 Jul 2016 10.13am)
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| Stuk Top half 28 Jul 16 11.55am |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
But then it comes back to the same argument that we can only ever be reactive and lock up 'nut job's after they have attempted to or succeeded in harming someone. The holy grail in mental health has to be prevention . When do murderous thoughts become a desire to act on them and finally am executed plan and how do we deal with these people. If we locked up everyone who had violant thoughts the world would be a much quieter place. There's no crime against thoughts. But when they lead further... Edited by Michaelawt85 (28 Jul 2016 10.13am) Nonsense. The family of the mental bloke, that killed an old guy after a minor collision, had begged the authorities to put him in an institution. The only reason they don't do it when asked, or begged, is that it would use up some of that council/NHS area's precious budget.
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| Michaelawt85 Bexley 28 Jul 16 1.03pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Nonsense. The family of the mental bloke, that killed an old guy after a minor collision, had begged the authorities to put him in an institution. The only reason they don't do it when asked, or begged, is that it would use up some of that council/NHS area's precious budget. So they reacted after he harmed someone else.. so not nonsense then.
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| Stuk Top half 28 Jul 16 2.07pm |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
So they reacted after he harmed someone else.. so not nonsense then. Try reading the article, or what I wrote. Before the killing, his family had ‘pleaded’ with clinicians to section him as his mental health declined, a trial heard.
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