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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Online Flag Bedford 01 Aug 16 9.09am Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

I agree with the thesis in this suggestion.
Sigurdsson is similar to Erikssen of Spurs and would add much to our creativity and our goals tally.

Mata still has plenty of football left in him and I'd rather use the Benteke 'money' (if such a pot actually exists) on his type plus a cheaper striker from the lower leagues.
With such superior service Gayle would have come good and I expect him to be central in Newcastle's return to the PL.

To my mind the cost of Benteke is an 'all eggs in one basket' gamble much the same as the short-sighted Adebayor experiment.
I really hope that this is just a smokescreen covering the eventual purchase of a decent midfielder - but I fear not such is Pardew's sterile attitude to attractive and effective football.
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Originally posted by Uphill

I agree with the thesis in this suggestion.
Sigurdsson is similar to Erikssen of Spurs and would add much to our creativity and our goals tally.

Mata still has plenty of football left in him and I'd rather use the Benteke 'money' (if such a pot actually exists) on his type plus a cheaper striker from the lower leagues.
With such superior service Gayle would have come good and I expect him to be central in Newcastle's return to the PL.

To my mind the cost of Benteke is an 'all eggs in one basket' gamble much the same as the short-sighted Adebayor experiment.
I really hope that this is just a smokescreen covering the eventual purchase of a decent midfielder - but I fear not such is Pardew's sterile attitude to attractive and effective football.
and succesful

Bottom line is we only have one fit striker at the club at the moment

 

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View victor43's Profile victor43 Flag St. Albans 01 Aug 16 10.51am Send a Private Message to victor43 Add victor43 as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

I agree with the thesis in this suggestion.
Sigurdsson is similar to Erikssen of Spurs and would add much to our creativity and our goals tally.

Mata still has plenty of football left in him and I'd rather use the Benteke 'money' (if such a pot actually exists) on his type plus a cheaper striker from the lower leagues.
With such superior service Gayle would have come good and I expect him to be central in Newcastle's return to the PL.

To my mind the cost of Benteke is an 'all eggs in one basket' gamble much the same as the short-sighted Adebayor experiment.
I really hope that this is just a smokescreen covering the eventual purchase of a decent midfielder - but I fear not such is Pardew's sterile attitude to attractive and effective football.
and succesful

You are completely off your trolley if you're comparing the Adebayor and Benteke deals. Benteke is the closest thing you'll get to a sure thing in terms of premier league goals. 25 years old, has scored regularly for 4 seasons, 3 of those for a team very similar to us.

Agree we also need a creative midfielder, but if we have the chance for Benteke we should grab it.

And please dont think Shelvey is a good option. He is a liability, has no mobility, terrible defensively and doesnt score enough. He's like Huddlestone in that occasionally he'll ping an outrageous pass or hit a cracking shot.

 


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Originally posted by Petereagle

Bottom line is we only have one fit striker at the club at the moment

He is rather scrummy isn't he?

 




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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Online Flag Bedford 01 Aug 16 1.32pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Originally posted by victor43

You are completely off your trolley if you're comparing the Adebayor and Benteke deals. Benteke is the closest thing you'll get to a sure thing in terms of premier league goals. 25 years old, has scored regularly for 4 seasons, 3 of those for a team very similar to us.

Agree we also need a creative midfielder, but if we have the chance for Benteke we should grab it.

And please dont think Shelvey is a good option. He is a liability, has no mobility, terrible defensively and doesnt score enough. He's like Huddlestone in that occasionally he'll ping an outrageous pass or hit a cracking shot.

Benteke comes with no guarantee and not sure Villa can be called a 'similar team to us' 30 million (if true) is an almighty gamble. Typical of Palace to sell on one of our best strikers without a replacement (or two) lined up. As for Shelvey, yes he is a 'problem' player, possibly a disruptive one, but he can pass the ball better than anything we currently have.

 

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Originally posted by Uphill

Benteke comes with no guarantee and not sure Villa can be called a 'similar team to us' 30 million (if true) is an almighty gamble. Typical of Palace to sell on one of our best strikers without a replacement (or two) lined up. As for Shelvey, yes he is a 'problem' player, possibly a disruptive one, but he can pass the ball better than anything we currently have.

No signing is ever guaranteed success regardless of fee etc but you are right, its a lot of money for a team like us to be paying which is exactly why the board are exercising caution before upping it by another 5 million. I still say at £10 million, Gayle had to go regardless of what we had lined up - it was early in the transfer window and that's a lot of money for a player that was never going to reach his potential with us - plus he was probably begging for the move once he heard about its possibility. Fair play to him that he didn't come out and demand a move, kept it professional and got a deal that I believe suits everyone.

Not sure I agree re Shelvey - don't think what you get as a player is worth the additional baggage. Plus he's ugly as f*ck.

 

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Originally posted by Uphill

To my mind the cost of Benteke is an 'all eggs in one basket' gamble much the same as the short-sighted Adebayor experiment

The problem with the "all the eggs in one basket" player is what happens if he breaks his leg. We were in exactly the same position a couple of decades ago when we signed Lombardo who transformed the side until he broke his leg and we slid down the table and were relegated

 

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Ah Lombardo ! Our own 'bald eagle'. Surely, somewhere in the world is someone with half his talent (a budding Fabrigas) plying their trade who we could 'discover' ?
Our last attempt at this, Campana, didn't cut the mustard although he didn't get an extended run to prove how good he was.
Why not tempt Pirlo back from the MSL, he bamboozled England in World Cup 2014 showing age, lack of speed
is no problem if allied to a masterful footballing brain. Wasn't Bobby Moore the epitome of this?

The problem with the "all the eggs in one basket" player is what happens if he breaks his leg. We were in exactly the same position a couple of decades ago when we signed Lombardo who transformed the side until he broke his leg and we slid down the table and were relegated

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 02 Aug 16 9.48am

Originally posted by Willo

Jonjo Shelvey who can spray good passes around and has an excellent strike from distance.We need someone with vision who can pass a ball.

Problem with Shelvey is he starts well at every club and then seems to disappear once his attitude has time to settle...

I like him as a player, but he seems to have trouble fitting into clubs.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 02 Aug 16 9.49am

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

I feel we could play all this money on a benteke/Bony/berahino but one of the main reason, why we fail to score is the lack of creativity. When puncheon off his game, the only way we look like scoring is a corner. Hope we adress this problem. My suggestion would be to sign Samir Nasri, G.siggursson or Juan mata.
Anyone else feel this is a problem.

Who would you suggest?

I bet they've all been angling for a move to Crystal Palace, and can't believe no ones phoned them yet.

 


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