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Trump still hasn't even recovered from his behaviour towards the family of the war hero. If there's one thing patriotic americans don't like, its the belittling of those in uniform or their families. He did it here and he did it by mocking the torture of John Mccain.

I get the anti establishment vote brigade and see that as a fair reason to go against the grain but it's also clearly a bigot's pipe dream that Trump will win. We're more likely to see a Clinton landslide than a Trump victory and I'm not even a fan of the woman.

Edited by blackpalacefan (20 Aug 2016 6.58pm)

 

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Originally posted by blackpalacefan

Trump still hasn't even recovered from his behaviour towards the family of the war hero. If there's one thing patriotic americans don't like, its the belittling of those in uniform or their families. He did it here and he did it by mocking the torture of John Mccain.

I get the anti establishment vote brigade and see that as a fair reason to go against the grain but it's also clearly a bigot's pipe dream that Trump will win. We're more likely to see a Clinton landslide than a Trump victory and I'm not even a fan of the woman.

Edited by blackpalacefan (20 Aug 2016 6.58pm)

Saying that Trump mocked or belittled that family is sheer anti Trump nonsense. It was them who actually did mock and belittle him.

Once the debates happen you will see Trump pull ahead in the polls. Clinton can't debate for toffee.

 


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Originally posted by blackpalacefan

But that's because he makes completely outrageous statements that he knows will, and may I add intends to, grab the headlines. Ignoring what a person says and how they behave in order to arbitrarily include an equal number of positive and negative stories about Clinton and Trump is a very subjective and slanted understanding of what being unbiased means.


Edited by blackpalacefan (20 Aug 2016 7.01pm)

There are plenty of criticisms of Hillary Clinton. The choice of stories are completely the decisions of editors and producers.

Only in your head could balanced become 'a very subjective and slanted understanding of what being unbiased means' and frankly you deserve criticism for it.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There are plenty of criticisms of Hillary Clinton. The choice of stories are completely the decisions of editors and producers.

Only in your head could balanced become 'a very subjective and slanted understanding of what being unbiased means' and frankly you deserve criticism for it.

My point stands. If someone regularly comes out with mocking statements about torture of war heroes and the like it will make headlines and in fact is solely designed to make headlines. Arbitrarily thinking we have to dig up 10 stupid things Clinton has said and done to match 10 things Trump has said is not what 'unbiased' is. In fact that would itself be an act of invention and bias.

Clinton was dragged through the dirt and rightly so over the email scandal but the fact remains that in the here and now, which is what 'news is', she says and does far less headline grabbing comments and actions than Trump and so received less attention.

You operate from a perspective where you get a kick out of Trump sticking it to muslims and the like because realistically it aligns with your mindset and behaviour on here and so that's why you're unable to see the wood for the trees or your own absurd behaviour in complaining about the treatment of a presidential cartoon character.

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Originally posted by blackpalacefan

My point stands. If someone regularly comes out with mocking statements about torture of war heroes and the like it will make headlines and in fact is solely designed to make headlines. Arbitrarily thinking we have to dig up 10 stupid things Clinton has said and done to match 10 things Trump has said is not what 'unbiased' is. In fact that would itself be an act of invention and bias.

Clinton was dragged through the dirt and rightly so over the email scandal but the fact remains that in the here and now, which is what 'news is', she says and does far less headline grabbing comments and actions than Trump and so received less attention.

You operate from a perspective where you get a kick out of Trump sticking it to muslims and the like because realistically it aligns with your mindset and behaviour on here and so that's why you're unable to see the wood for the trees or your own absurd behaviour in complaining about the treatment of a presidential cartoon character.

Edited by blackpalacefan (20 Aug 2016 7.42pm)

Don't attempt to speak for me, you don't know my political positions. I'm not a Trump supporter or a Clinton one. I, however don't like the absurd levels of Clinton bias in a publicly funded institution.

Anyone willing to look into the email scandal and the punishments for similar rule breaking would see that Clinton got off extremely lightly.....She was done a favour and it stinks.

I believe in fairness of treatment. There are plenty of stories centred around Clinton from her dubious past, to her treatment of staff, to her obvious health problems to questions over corruption in relation to company payments to the Clinton foundation....something Wikileaks were talking about on the other week. Also questionable decision making during her time as secretary of State.

You saying that relevant issues aren't there for Clinton is a completely biased perspective. Sure she is more politically correct than Trump who makes for easy and lazy copy. I'm not sure how positive that aspect is.

Of the here and now both her health issues and Wikileaks commentary upon her dodgy connections to Russia are relevant.....If this were the case with Trump I'm certain the BBC would be all over it.

Criticism of Trump is of course fair, but what is notable is the lack of balance and bias in the reporting and the choice of editors to ignore the major issues around Clinton to anything like the same degree.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Don't attempt to speak for me, you don't know my political positions. I'm not a Trump supporter or a Clinton one. I, however don't like the absurd levels of Clinton bias in a publicly funded institution.

Anyone willing to look into the email scandal and the punishments for similar rule breaking would see that Clinton got off extremely lightly.....She was done a favour and it stinks.

I believe in fairness of treatment. There are plenty of stories centred around Clinton from her dubious past, to her treatment of staff, to her obvious health problems to questions over corruption in relation to company payments to the Clinton foundation....something Wikileaks were talking about on the other week. Also questionable decision making during her time as secretary of State.

You saying that relevant issues aren't there for Clinton is a completely biased perspective. Sure she is more politically correct than Trump who makes for easy and lazy copy. I'm not sure how positive that aspect is.

Of the here and now both her health issues and Wikileaks commentary upon her dodgy connections to Russia are relevant.....If this were the case with Trump I'm certain the BBC would be all over it.

Criticism of Trump is of course fair, but what is notable is the lack of balance and bias in the reporting and the choice of editors to ignore the major issues around Clinton to anything like the same degree.

Speaking of which, are you ready to retract your statement of Bolt being a drugs cheat yet?

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

Speaking of which, are you ready to retract your statement of Bolt being a drugs cheat yet?

Why would I?

I'm quite sure that this view will be vindicated in time.

The Jamaican team have quite a few scandals around their sprinting squad.....lets say this, if the truth over Bolt isn't revealed within five years I'll retract it.

As a point to make Kermy it doesn't exactly make a lot of sense. I'm not in the media and I'm not being paid by the taxpayer....Perhaps if I were I would think twice before publicising that view. I feel that perhaps that reflects the position of some.

As for fairness over Bolt....fairness in relation to what? Are you saying that incredulity over sprint times means you aren't allowed to state a view that they are drug inspired? I'm not writing for a newspaper here.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Aug 2016 8.54pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Why would I?

I'm quite sure that this view will be vindicated in time.

The Jamaican team have quite a few scandals around their sprinting squad.....lets say this, if the truth over Bolt isn't revealed within five years I'll retract it.

As a point to make Kermy it doesn't exactly make a lot of sense. I'm not in the media and I'm not being paid by the taxpayer....Perhaps if I were I would think twice before publicising that view. I feel that perhaps that reflects the position of some.

As for fairness over Bolt....fairness in relation to what? Are you saying that incredulity over sprint times means you aren't allowed to state a view that they are drug inspired? I'm not writing for a newspaper here.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Aug 2016 8.54pm)

Hmmm...Jimmy Saville - Innocent until proven 100% guilty

Usain Bolt - Guilty until proven innocent.

Of course you are allowed to make statements. Just remember in your world of ethics and fairness your judgement is seriously flawed.

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

Hmmm...Jimmy Saville - Innocent until proven 100% guilty

Usain Bolt - Guilty until proven innocent.

Of course you are allowed to make statements. Just remember in your world of ethics and fairness your judgement is seriously flawed.

It's a black and white issue.

In all senses of the words.

No wonder I was emailed when I got into it with this guy about his 'critique' of Ali and told not to bother because he had 'previous'. If he spent 1/10 of the time on his narcissism that he does fixating on whatever minority is passing through that would be something. Caring about fairness? Yeah, of whatever bigot is in the spotlight that he has an affinity for. Talk about 'in your own image'. Give me a break.

Proven British 'national treasure' pedo - Infinite benefit of the doubt given

Elite african origin athlete - Guilty with zero proof


Sickening.

Edited by blackpalacefan (20 Aug 2016 10.28pm)

 

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Originally posted by Kermit8

Hmmm...Jimmy Saville - Innocent until proven 100% guilty

Usain Bolt - Guilty until proven innocent.

Of course you are allowed to make statements. Just remember in your world of ethics and fairness your judgement is seriously flawed.


Errr....just remind me Kermy, is Britain apart of the continent again? You can't even get common sense half the time.

I admit I was wrong over Saville.....and those are your words in characterization not mine, in case anyone thinks otherwise.

I also never said Bolt was guilty until proven innocent. I just have an opinion. Bolt ran 10.03 one year and 9.69 the next back in 2007. You believe if you like.

I just think your judgement is seriously flawed and time will tell.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Aug 2016 11.05pm)

 


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Originally posted by blackpalacefan

It's a black and white issue.

In all senses of the words.

No wonder I was emailed when I got into it with this guy about his 'critique' of Ali and told not to bother because he had 'previous'. If he spent 1/10 of the time on his narcissism that he does fixating on whatever minority is passing through that would be something. Caring about fairness? Yeah, of whatever bigot is in the spotlight that he has an affinity for. Talk about 'in your own image'. Give me a break.

Proven British 'national treasure' pedo - Infinite benefit of the doubt given

Elite african origin athlete - Guilty with zero proof


Sickening.

Edited by blackpalacefan (20 Aug 2016 10.28pm)

Terrible terrible post. You are in effect calling me a racist. This is disgusting and you know nothing about me.

Whoever sent that email to you is an idiot.

You go too far and I'll happily state, the colour of a man's skin has nothing to do with their worth. The colour of a person's skin makes a person no better or worse than me.

I don't rate people on their skin colour I rate them on their character and what I think of their personal culture.

You played the race card.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Aug 2016 11.04pm)

 


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