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jamiemartin721 Reading 11 Aug 16 3.03pm
Originally posted by dannyh In my scenario no where does it state the Arab world have suddenly become humanist liberals. That my dear old friend was avoidance in all its wonderful (if not a little obvious) glory. The bit about humanitarianism applies still. Just because a regime is oppressive, doesn't mean we shouldn't offer succor to its victims, on the basis that regime would not offer the same to us. The point of opposition to oppression, is to be humanitarian. I also think we should cut immigration (its why I voted out - EU Migration is for profitability), but asylum and refugee cannot be part of that. 250k increase in population from the EU freedom of movement a year is the problem. In terms of asylum, successful claims are about 10% of the UK emigration each year. We can live with that. What we can't live with is increasing our population in urban areas, with already high population density by 250,000 plus per year. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 11 Aug 16 3.03pm

Originally posted by dannyh

In my scenario no where does it state the Arab world have suddenly become humanist liberals. That my dear old friend was avoidance in all its wonderful (if not a little obvious) glory.

The bit about humanitarianism applies still. Just because a regime is oppressive, doesn't mean we shouldn't offer succor to its victims, on the basis that regime would not offer the same to us.

The point of opposition to oppression, is to be humanitarian.

I also think we should cut immigration (its why I voted out - EU Migration is for profitability), but asylum and refugee cannot be part of that.

250k increase in population from the EU freedom of movement a year is the problem. In terms of asylum, successful claims are about 10% of the UK emigration each year. We can live with that.

What we can't live with is increasing our population in urban areas, with already high population density by 250,000 plus per year.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Aug 16 3.10pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 The bit about humanitarianism applies still. Just because a regime is oppressive, doesn't mean we shouldn't offer succor to its victims, on the basis that regime would not offer the same to us. The point of opposition to oppression, is to be humanitarian. I also think we should cut immigration (its why I voted out - EU Migration is for profitability), but asylum and refugee cannot be part of that. 250k increase in population from the EU freedom of movement a year is the problem. In terms of asylum, successful claims are about 10% of the UK emigration each year. We can live with that. What we can't live with is increasing our population in urban areas, with already high population density by 250,000 plus per year. Just a few cases I have had personal experience of in education may prove quite illuminating. I was speaking to a Lebanese Muslim who came over on a holiday visa and found himself talked into claiming asylum - he has full status now. He said 'I may as well have British citizenship as I can now do what I like and claim benefits'. He was relatively well off in the Lebanon and can now do as he pleases. I also taught three African girls: they all said they were coming over just to be better off economically and they get coached by advisors as to what to say to immigration officials. They had all been refused in other European countries already. One of the three now has citizenship with one soon to follow. The other needs to wait a year or two. In their defence the whole process took 5-10 years but I guess you get my point. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Aug 16 3.10pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

The bit about humanitarianism applies still. Just because a regime is oppressive, doesn't mean we shouldn't offer succor to its victims, on the basis that regime would not offer the same to us.

The point of opposition to oppression, is to be humanitarian.

I also think we should cut immigration (its why I voted out - EU Migration is for profitability), but asylum and refugee cannot be part of that.

250k increase in population from the EU freedom of movement a year is the problem. In terms of asylum, successful claims are about 10% of the UK emigration each year. We can live with that.

What we can't live with is increasing our population in urban areas, with already high population density by 250,000 plus per year.

Just a few cases I have had personal experience of in education may prove quite illuminating. I was speaking to a Lebanese Muslim who came over on a holiday visa and found himself talked into claiming asylum - he has full status now. He said 'I may as well have British citizenship as I can now do what I like and claim benefits'.
He was relatively well off in the Lebanon and can now do as he pleases.
I also taught three African girls: they all said they were coming over just to be better off economically and they get coached by advisors as to what to say to immigration officials. They had all been refused in other European countries already.
One of the three now has citizenship with one soon to follow. The other needs to wait a year or two. In their defence the whole process took 5-10 years but I guess you get my point.

Red and Blue Army!

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