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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Aug 19 10.00pm
Originally posted by sitdownstandup Oh gawd..... well I thought this this thread would be a bit more divisive than it was ... obvsly I was wrong... animals deserve the right to live free of pain... and that entails not eating them ( in my opinion anyways) ... opposing opinions welcomed... ps I dont like arguing but yep opposing opinions are still welcomed. I have never understood the argument that to be kind to animals we should not eat them. Animals eat each other in the wild all the time. Most farm animals wouldn't have any life at all unless we ate them. We cannot ask them if they would prefer not to be born rather than be born to be eaten but I would hazard a guess it would be the latter. A stronger argument for not eating meat is that it's a more efficient use of land resources to concentrate on vegetables and when there is a need to feed the hungry we ought to think about that. I am also passionately against the organic movement as a totally wrong direction. Sustainable farming in underdeveloped countries makes good sense but to indulge in going organic is just the "yuppy mummy" guilt response to using convenience foods. It's scientifically unsound and a pointless waste of knowledge. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 08 Aug 19 10.00pm

Originally posted by sitdownstandup

Oh gawd..... well I thought this this thread would be a bit more divisive than it was ... obvsly I was wrong... animals deserve the right to live free of pain... and that entails not eating them ( in my opinion anyways) ... opposing opinions welcomed... ps I dont like arguing but yep opposing opinions are still welcomed.

I have never understood the argument that to be kind to animals we should not eat them.

Animals eat each other in the wild all the time.

Most farm animals wouldn't have any life at all unless we ate them. We cannot ask them if they would prefer not to be born rather than be born to be eaten but I would hazard a guess it would be the latter.

A stronger argument for not eating meat is that it's a more efficient use of land resources to concentrate on vegetables and when there is a need to feed the hungry we ought to think about that.

I am also passionately against the organic movement as a totally wrong direction. Sustainable farming in underdeveloped countries makes good sense but to indulge in going organic is just the "yuppy mummy" guilt response to using convenience foods. It's scientifically unsound and a pointless waste of knowledge.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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cryrst The garden of England 08 Aug 19 10.29pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I have never understood the argument that to be kind to animals we should not eat them. Animals eat each other in the wild all the time. Most farm animals wouldn't have any life at all unless we ate them. We cannot ask them if they would prefer not to be born rather than be born to be eaten but I would hazard a guess it would be the latter. A stronger argument for not eating meat is that it's a more efficient use of land resources to concentrate on vegetables and when there is a need to feed the hungry we ought to think about that. I am also passionately against the organic movement as a totally wrong direction. Sustainable farming in underdeveloped countries makes good sense but to indulge in going organic is just the "yuppy mummy" guilt response to using convenience foods. It's scientifically unsound and a pointless waste of knowledge. Well that's a first. I find myself agreeing. Apart from swapping the land for veg that is.
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cryrst

The garden of England 08 Aug 19 10.29pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have never understood the argument that to be kind to animals we should not eat them.

Animals eat each other in the wild all the time.

A stronger argument for not eating meat is that it's a more efficient use of land resources to concentrate on vegetables and when there is a need to feed the hungry we ought to think about that.

Well that's a first.
I find myself agreeing.
Apart from swapping the land for veg that is.

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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Aug 19 10.34pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I have never understood the argument that to be kind to animals we should not eat them. Animals eat each other in the wild all the time. Most farm animals wouldn't have any life at all unless we ate them. We cannot ask them if they would prefer not to be born rather than be born to be eaten but I would hazard a guess it would be the latter. A stronger argument for not eating meat is that it's a more efficient use of land resources to concentrate on vegetables and when there is a need to feed the hungry we ought to think about that. I am also passionately against the organic movement as a totally wrong direction. Sustainable farming in underdeveloped countries makes good sense but to indulge in going organic is just the "yuppy mummy" guilt response to using convenience foods. It's scientifically unsound and a pointless waste of knowledge. As humans, we are capable of compassion. We might like to eat our furry friends but the least we can do is limit their suffering to a minimum.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have never understood the argument that to be kind to animals we should not eat them.

Animals eat each other in the wild all the time.

A stronger argument for not eating meat is that it's a more efficient use of land resources to concentrate on vegetables and when there is a need to feed the hungry we ought to think about that.

As humans, we are capable of compassion.
We might like to eat our furry friends but the least we can do is limit their suffering to a minimum.

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deleted user 08 Aug 19 11.04pm
Some good points by all. A future moral quandary could be if lab grown meat is eventually as sustainable and cost effective as actually killing animals. Like other dietary choices though, it would be down to how the individual feels. On its surface 'lab grown' doesn't have a particularly appetising ring to it, but then I doubt slaughtered would either outside of being accustomed to it throughout life. Technology of course raises many questions that we wouldn't otherwise anticipate having to answer.
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08 Aug 19 11.04pm

Some good points by all. A future moral quandary could be if lab grown meat is eventually as sustainable and cost effective as actually killing animals. Like other dietary choices though, it would be down to how the individual feels.

On its surface 'lab grown' doesn't have a particularly appetising ring to it, but then I doubt slaughtered would either outside of being accustomed to it throughout life. Technology of course raises many questions that we wouldn't otherwise anticipate having to answer.

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