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ParchmoreEagle Flag Belair 07 Sep 16 4.15pm

Originally posted by silvertop


Adabayor?

Adebayor was plenty good enough IMO - I'm not blaming him for his time with us - we were useless in setting him or any other striker up.

 


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View Foxy0208's Profile Foxy0208 Flag Blackpool 07 Sep 16 4.21pm Send a Private Message to Foxy0208 Add Foxy0208 as a friend

If this goes through without a hitch it's a really good signing.

Strengthened an area where we were a bit short and a pretty decent player.

Always played well when I have watched him.

 


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View Southampton_Eagle's Profile Southampton_Eagle Flag At the after party 07 Sep 16 4.24pm Send a Private Message to Southampton_Eagle Add Southampton_Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Monty the Eagle

Although I agree entirely with your sentiments, I would love to know the thought process that led to Gary McAllister and Gary Speed being the first two that sprung to mind.

I'd have started with Gary McSheffrey, personally.

 

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ParchmoreEagle Flag Belair 07 Sep 16 4.24pm

Originally posted by sotac464

We're not talking about a striker here, we're talking about a midfield destroyer, big difference. Adebayor and Sanogo were judged on goals, or lack of them. When it comes to a midfielder I think experience counts for a lot, especially when you are over 30. Gary Mccallister, Gary Speed, Pirlo, Alonso, Lampard.

The list is endless of quality midfielders who can carry on playing at the highest level until they are 34/35.

This guy is in his prime. Spoke to an Arsenal season ticket holder at work who said, Dont expect much finesse, but he will give his all, and kick a few lumps out of the opposition. Exactly what we need.

It gets my goat up people judging strikers based on goals or lack of. IMO strikers are better judged on chances converted/not converted. It seems unfair otherwise. Adebayor especially looked ok to me, like he was having a real crack at it, but I think we did his confidence in, expecting him to convert hoof-balls when his experience is converting quality Arsenal passes.

 


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View sotac464's Profile sotac464 Flag Berkshire 07 Sep 16 4.25pm Send a Private Message to sotac464 Add sotac464 as a friend

Originally posted by Monty the Eagle

Although I agree entirely with your sentiments, I would love to know the thought process that led to Gary McAllister and Gary Speed being the first two that sprung to mind.

I was just sitting here watching an episode of only fools and horses. Besides they were quality player's in their advancing year's in the premiership.

 


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View Monty the Eagle's Profile Monty the Eagle Flag Lima 07 Sep 16 4.30pm Send a Private Message to Monty the Eagle Add Monty the Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by sotac464

I was just sitting here watching an episode of only fools and horses. Besides they were quality player's in their advancing year's in the premiership.

They were no Ray Houghton though. I loved it when I saw on teletext that he had signed.

 

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View sotac464's Profile sotac464 Flag Berkshire 07 Sep 16 4.34pm Send a Private Message to sotac464 Add sotac464 as a friend

Originally posted by ParchmoreEagle

It gets my goat up people judging strikers based on goals or lack of. IMO strikers are better judged on chances converted/not converted. It seems unfair otherwise. Adebayor especially looked ok to me, like he was having a real crack at it, but I think we did his confidence in, expecting him to convert hoof-balls when his experience is converting quality Arsenal passes.


So Adebayor scored 1 goal and you think he did ok. We might not create loads of chances per game, but a striker is here to score, surely?

How about a striker that can actually create his only chances, or score a goal out of the blue, neither which Adebayor was capable of.

Lets see if you have the same opinion of Benteke, if he's only scored 1 goal in 13 games.

 


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View Beastie's Profile Beastie Flag 07 Sep 16 4.42pm Send a Private Message to Beastie Add Beastie as a friend

Originally posted by sotac464

So Adebayor scored 1 goal and you think he did ok. We might not create loads of chances per game, but a striker is here to score, surely?

How about a striker that can actually create his only chances, or score a goal out of the blue, neither which Adebayor was capable of.

Lets see if you have the same opinion of Benteke, if he's only scored 1 goal in 13 games.

No he’s right, Adebayor and even Campbell got slaughtered for failing to score goals out of nothing, while our attacking midfielders keep their good reputation despite creating f*ck all.

 

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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 07 Sep 16 4.59pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Can flamini play with cabaye or is it a replacement if cabaye injured or loses form?

 


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View sotac464's Profile sotac464 Flag Berkshire 07 Sep 16 5.00pm Send a Private Message to sotac464 Add sotac464 as a friend

Originally posted by Beastie

No he’s right, Adebayor and even Campbell got slaughtered for failing to score goals out of nothing, while our attacking midfielders keep their good reputation despite creating f*ck all.

A top striker, one of his best attributes will be his movement, creating that half a yard for himself, being able to get the shot on target, something I'm hoping Benteke will bring to the side.

Contrary to popular belief on this message board, I actually saw Bolasie put a few decent balls in the box last year, at Selhurst especially, but having Wickham, Bamford and Adebayor as your attacking talent would nullify any teams goalscoring ability.

 


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View cpking191's Profile cpking191 Flag Georgia 07 Sep 16 5.04pm Send a Private Message to cpking191 Add cpking191 as a friend

Creating a half yard of space implies we've got the ball in to the strikers feet to begin with, which was rarely the case last year, and even more infrequently in a position from which a decent shot could be had.

 


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View sotac464's Profile sotac464 Flag Berkshire 07 Sep 16 5.13pm Send a Private Message to sotac464 Add sotac464 as a friend

Originally posted by cpking191

Creating a half yard of space implies we've got the ball in to the strikers feet to begin with, which was rarely the case last year, and even more infrequently in a position from which a decent shot could be had.

Disagree, I saw some decent enough balls coming into the box last year, I'm not talking about them flying from all angles, every few minutes like when we were in the championship, but enough for us to score more goals, if the forwards were of decent enough quality.

We may only get 2 or 3 chances in a game, especially against decent opposition, but those chances need to be taken.

 


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