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View kent675's Profile kent675 Flag Bromley, Kent 06 Sep 16 1.56pm Send a Private Message to kent675 Add kent675 as a friend

Don't think I have ever been so happy to hear about the demise and exposure of an MP as much as this odious worm.

Fingers crossed Diane Abbott is next.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 06 Sep 16 2.12pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Sedlescombe

Isn't that his electorate's job at a GE? There is nothing illegal here that I am aware of

Nothing illegal by a very fine margin and who knows what else they've still got on him?

I reckon there might be one or two issues with the MP's code of conduct at least.

 


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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 06 Sep 16 2.27pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

alkyl nitrites aren't untested substances.

Drugs aren't good, but they are a real problem, that the UK has failed to do anything real to benefit people who don't want to use them or the people who do want to use them, or those who have problems with them.

Meanwhile, gangs, criminal networks and organised crime has been earning billions annually from the illegal trade. That's before you even get to the misery and suffering created by prohibition across the world (like Colombia, Brazil, Mexico).

Drugs aren't good. Prohibition however is very good for crime.

There is no point continuing this because neither of us will budge. You have your crazy hippie ideals, I stand for order. Let's leave it there.

Back to Keith Vaz, wonder what he said to his wife when she found out?

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Sep 16 2.33pm

Originally posted by matt_himself


Back to Keith Vaz, wonder what he said to his wife when she found out?

For some reason I envisage something akin to 'Clive's Excuses' from Monkey Dust...

 


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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 06 Sep 16 2.51pm

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

Dancuzak is an absolute joke and that ex wife of his..

Would, probably could if i ever bump into her.

 

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View Michaelawt85's Profile Michaelawt85 Flag Bexley 06 Sep 16 2.55pm Send a Private Message to Michaelawt85 Add Michaelawt85 as a friend

Originally posted by bubble wrap

Would, probably could if i ever bump into her.

She doesn't seem the full shilling.. hope you don't have a pet rabbit

 


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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 06 Sep 16 2.56pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

There is no point continuing this because neither of us will budge. You have your crazy hippie ideals, I stand for order. Let's leave it there.

Back to Keith Vaz, wonder what he said to his wife when she found out?

That bloody washing machine salesman again!

 

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View Sedlescombe's Profile Sedlescombe Flag Sedlescombe 06 Sep 16 3.38pm Send a Private Message to Sedlescombe Add Sedlescombe as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

Nothing illegal by a very fine margin and who knows what else they've still got on him?

I reckon there might be one or two issues with the MP's code of conduct at least.

It may be that the papers have held something back. That tends to be the way they keep the story going. We can discuss any illegality after it is revealed rather than assuming it has taken place.

I don't blame the paper and his wife and electorate can act on their feelings. However I don't see this has anything to do with his job. Their is no evidence of (political) hypocrisy that I am aware of. I am not sure he should even have resigned from chairing the Select Committee

 

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 06 Sep 16 3.46pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Sedlescombe

It may be that the papers have held something back. That tends to be the way they keep the story going. We can discuss any illegality after it is revealed rather than assuming it has taken place.

I don't blame the paper and his wife and electorate can act on their feelings. However I don't see this has anything to do with his job. Their is no evidence of (political) hypocrisy that I am aware of. I am not sure he should even have resigned from chairing the Select Committee

Other than the committee looking into the legalities of prostitution and the use of poppers, deciding against making them illegal, then subsequently finding out the chairman is a user?

 


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View Sedlescombe's Profile Sedlescombe Flag Sedlescombe 06 Sep 16 3.54pm Send a Private Message to Sedlescombe Add Sedlescombe as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

Other than the committee looking into the legalities of prostitution and the use of poppers, deciding against making them illegal, then subsequently finding out the chairman is a user?

That is a fair observation but where does the logic of "conflict of interest" stop.

There will be MPs who have children. Are they allowed to speak (or chair committee's) on childcare.

If an MP has a medical condition - For example the MP with Cerebral Palsy.

MP's over 65 and pensions policy

There are many examples of this for what is a Legal activity. Indeed it might not be a bad idea for MP's pontificating on drug policy to have at least tried poppers.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Sep 16 3.57pm

Originally posted by Stuk

Other than the committee looking into the legalities of prostitution and the use of poppers, deciding against making them illegal, then subsequently finding out the chairman is a user?

Oddly I don't think that's necessarily a 'bad thing' per se. If your going to have a committee looking into prostitution or drug legalisation, you do need people with experience on 'the other' side.

The chairman, ideally, should be someone who is neither pro or anti though. However, we have a political tendency to accept a chair person who has a 'strong moral stance' that's in line with the government policy, which is in no way any worse than having someone who might be 'pro-change'.

But in an ideal world, you want someone who is not really in possession of a strong moral stance.

That said, commitees and specialist advisors tend to be just ignored if they don't line up to the government 'stance' (David Nutt springs to mind).

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Sep 16 4.03pm

Originally posted by Sedlescombe


There are many examples of this for what is a Legal activity. Indeed it might not be a bad idea for MP's pontificating on drug policy to have at least tried poppers.

I think if you have any policy, it needs to be defined in a manner that's pragmatic. Consequently, MP's are the last people that ever look at pragmatic solutions and approaches, because they're looking more at their next election campaign. Governments and MP's are notorious poor at dealing with issues that might be difficult to sell to the public, but ultimately could be pragmatic solutions to social problems.

We've been pursuing a policy on prisons and policing that runs contrary to all evidence of rehabilitation and crime control initiatives for decades.

 


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