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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 11 Sep 16 12.03am Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Originally posted by Casual

Thought Brook was very brave, but GGG could have walked through his punches all night. Good fight, brook needs to drop down and fight Thurman , triple G might aswell retire, unless he wants to step up a weight and get boringly beaten by ward.

Would have to be a couple of weights to fight ward. Canelo possibly

 

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Originally posted by Casual

Thought Brook was very brave, but GGG could have walked through his punches all night. Good fight, brook needs to drop down and fight Thurman , triple G might aswell retire, unless he wants to step up a weight and get boringly beaten by ward.

I agree that it was a tremendously gutsy performance by Brook. He always had more than people gave him credit for and showed it here in spades. It makes a change to watch a decent fight.

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 11 Sep 16 9.09am

Watched this at the 02 last night – one of the best fights I have ever attended.

Just seen the recording back on TV, think the commentators all had their Brook glasses on! whilst there is no doubt that Brook fought well and was incredibly brave, for me there was only going to be one winner once that first bell one rang and GGG started stalking him.

In GGG I think we have just witnessed the best middleweight of the last decade, possible generation. Don’t know how he gets his power, seems to be more technique than strength.

Just seen Brooks interview which made me smile, when asked if he thought he hurt GGG he said something about ’yes, being up close I could see I was hurting him’ even though there was not a mark on GGGs face.

However when asked about GGGs power Brook replied, ‘he was not that powerful, although he did break my eye socket in the 2nd round’!

If Brook campaigns at light middle I think he will be a two time World Champion, but he is not a middleweight.

Really hope to see GGG fight again, simply awesome display from a frightening yet humble champion. Unless he goes up in weight or hangs around too long I see him being one of those rare fighters who retires undefeated. Bloody hope he fights over here again.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Sep 16 12.25pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by SurreyEagle16

The fact that some think Golovkin is unbeatable is testament to the gullibility of sports fans. Every great fighter looks unbeatable right up to the point that they get beaten.

For the record, I think Brook is long odds to win this fight. But the image of Golovkin as an unbeatable monster is every bit as much a product of promotional spin as Brook's chances in this fight.

Golovkin's record is impressive, no doubt. But a huge proportion of his wins (as brooks) have come against fighters below elite level. The best name on his record is arguably David Lemieux...you wont find many casual boxing fans who have even heard of him.

My point was that Brook stood no chance of winning the fight. His better boxing skills were no surprise but he was in there to make a lot of people money and was the only boxer keen enough to take the bout. Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows this was a money fight and that Triple G is by far the most destructive middleweight in the division and possibly of all time. Only someone who can avoid his punches and dance to a points win will have any chance. Any takers?

 

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View SurreyEagle16's Profile SurreyEagle16 Flag Next Door 11 Sep 16 1.12pm Send a Private Message to SurreyEagle16 Add SurreyEagle16 as a friend

All fights are about making money...nobody gets punched in the head for fun.

And I just do not agree that Brook had "no chance" of winning. Everyone connected with him acknowledged this was a huge risk and that he might lose...but that doesn't mean he definitely would.

He was winning the fight, even with a broken eye socket which would have made getting out of the way harder. And the one left hook in the first round aside, he never looked close to going down. Yes, he was taking punches and yes...if the fight had continued he probably would have been stopped. But that does not = 'no chance'.

I think the fight showed that Golovkin is the real deal...and I feel for him because he fights in an era where his division does not have a lot of stellar names (a la Larry Holmes) but best middleweight of all time...based on beating who?

 

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View Mr_Gristle's Profile Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 11 Sep 16 3.04pm Send a Private Message to Mr_Gristle Add Mr_Gristle as a friend

Thought I'd share this for all those like me who couldn't watch the fight:

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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 11 Sep 16 3.54pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

My point was that Brook stood no chance of winning the fight. His better boxing skills were no surprise but he was in there to make a lot of people money and was the only boxer keen enough to take the bout. Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows this was a money fight and that Triple G is by far the most destructive middleweight in the division and possibly of all time. Only someone who can avoid his punches and dance to a points win will have any chance. Any takers?

He's good but nowhere near the best. Sugar Ray Robinson (and Leonard), Carlos Monzon, Hagler were all better and there are quite a few others such as Hearns and others, from even further back.

Edited by johnno42000 (11 Sep 2016 3.55pm)

 


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View Joe Bloggs's Profile Joe Bloggs Flag Nr Norwich 11 Sep 16 3.59pm Send a Private Message to Joe Bloggs Add Joe Bloggs as a friend

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Thought I'd share this for all those like me who couldn't watch the fight:

[Link]

Many Thanks

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Sep 16 4.03pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by johnno42000

He's good but nowhere near the best. Sugar Ray Robinson (and Leonard), Carlos Monzon, Hagler were all better and there are quite a few others such as Hearns and others, from even further back.

Edited by johnno42000 (11 Sep 2016 3.55pm)

None of those had his punch power. Better boxers for sure.

 

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Originally posted by SurreyEagle16

All fights are about making money...nobody gets punched in the head for fun.

And I just do not agree that Brook had "no chance" of winning. Everyone connected with him acknowledged this was a huge risk and that he might lose...but that doesn't mean he definitely would.

He was winning the fight, even with a broken eye socket which would have made getting out of the way harder. And the one left hook in the first round aside, he never looked close to going down. Yes, he was taking punches and yes...if the fight had continued he probably would have been stopped. But that does not = 'no chance'.

I think the fight showed that Golovkin is the real deal...and I feel for him because he fights in an era where his division does not have a lot of stellar names (a la Larry Holmes) but best middleweight of all time...based on beating who?

All fights are partly about money but this fight was only about money. Only Brook's ego thought he could win.
There is no such thing as "no chance" in a fight but this was as close as you can get.
Sky Sports Box office just love people like you.

 

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View blackpalacefan's Profile blackpalacefan Flag 11 Sep 16 5.24pm Send a Private Message to blackpalacefan Add blackpalacefan as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

All fights are partly about money but this fight was only about money. Only Brook's ego thought he could win.
There is no such thing as "no chance" in a fight but this was as close as you can get.
Sky Sports Box office just love people like you.

Some of the punches had an impact but I agree that he massively had his work cut out. It was an enjoyable fight though and there is no denying that Brook was very brave and gave it his all. It was well worth watching and there's nothing wrong with a huge underdog type match up, where both fighters give it their all.

GGG is definitely beatable as he gets caught far too easily even if he takes punches well. It'll just likely be at the hands of someone more powerful than Brook.

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 11 Sep 16 5.54pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by blackpalacefan

Some of the punches had an impact but I agree that he massively had his work cut out. It was an enjoyable fight though and there is no denying that Brook was very brave and gave it his all. It was well worth watching and there's nothing wrong with a huge underdog type match up, where both fighters give it their all.

GGG is definitely beatable as he gets caught far too easily even if he takes punches well. It'll just likely be at the hands of someone more powerful than Brook.

Yes there is, as a boxing fan you want to see the best fight the best, Brook holds the ibf title and there are numerous 50/50 fights at his weight, Bradley, thurman, garcia, spence jr, khan, that would all justify ppv.

But nope why risk it when we can stick him in against a middleweight, he loses the public call him brave, golovkin remains unbeaten and Hearn, ggg, and brook are all laughing to the bank.

 

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