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View dmendenhall_9's Profile dmendenhall_9 Flag 12 Sep 16 7.04pm Send a Private Message to dmendenhall_9 Add dmendenhall_9 as a friend

I would argue that CW is half the reason we always complain about the bad service to him. He wins about half as many aerials as Benteke does and lost possession quite often. He was getting better but not even close to as good as a holdup striker as Benteke. I would be banging my head on how many headers he missed while watching him and how many times he got tackled with the ball at his feet and back to the opposition's goal. It will come good this year. Our service was as good as any other teams last year but just had no finish on it. Check out this little spreadsheet I made comparing crossing accuracy during last year's season.

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Originally posted by pstrutt

I think that the excitement about the deliveries from Wilf and Andros are a little premature. Wilf had a great game on the weekend, gift wrapped and handed to him by George Friend, and we know what AT is capable of. However, there have been games where previously CW has struggled for service and it could be the same for Benteke if we don't have multiple plans and multiple teams who can work together for results. Some players will know that they are going to be a sub (Ledley / Chungy / Flamini) and that if they come on it is because they will be playing plan B or C or whatever.

One team with one plan of get it to Big Ben will not work all season!

 

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View ThatPetrolRelation's Profile ThatPetrolRelation Flag Ottawa 12 Sep 16 7.56pm Send a Private Message to ThatPetrolRelation Add ThatPetrolRelation as a friend

I like the set-up now. Benteke is head-it first, whereas Wickham would rather shoot. The CBs are trying to stay very tight to Benteke, which means the wingers are more likely facing one v one situations and have more time before getting double-teamed.

Zaha and Bolasie had very similar games, I think the mix with Zaha and Townsend is looking better. Zaha will still punish with tricks and speed (though now he is finally stopping to pop an early cross in now and then!), AT likes to cut inside and look for a shot or short pass. It seems likely AT will soon get his first goal from a cutback from Benteke, who draws a lot of attention.

As far as Plan B, I hope AP is working on a 2 striker system that has Wickham and Benteke working together instead of putting Wickham on the wing, which won't work. They need to figure out a way to make that work, because we'll be doing that when we are chasing the game.

I liked Kelly's game, but if he doesn't keep impressing, I think we may see Ward at LB, and Tomkins or Flamini in at RB. Though Fryers looked good in preseason, so him starting isn't as terrifying as it would have seemed last year.

Overall, despite the injuries I like our depth a lot better (Little Ben notwithstanding) Bringing Campbell, Sako or Mutch on to try to save a game was just depressing.

Edited by ThatPetrolRelation (12 Sep 2016 7.58pm)

 

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lindzay Flag 12 Sep 16 8.20pm

The average fan knows naff all about such subjects.........How insulting to even ask such a question. What happened to loyalty? We have a very good manager....and so many good managers have to put up with this kind of stupidity.

Come on Palace!

 

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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 12 Sep 16 9.04pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by lindzay

The average fan knows naff all about such subjects.........How insulting to even ask such a question. What happened to loyalty? We have a very good manager....and so many good managers have to put up with this kind of stupidity.

Come on Palace!

Last week Pardew said that he doesn't currently know the best team and he will need to fit the pieces together.

 


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View srh's Profile srh Flag london 13 Sep 16 6.53am Send a Private Message to srh Add srh as a friend

Originally posted by Eagles1979

I understand we have injures but I feel he makes to many changes. By now we need a settled 11, this is probably due to leaving our transfer activity late in the window and injuries. Isee Fryers is on the bench. Also Dreher, is he good ? I don't know much About him.

Yes he does as does everyone else. We only have about 12 fit possible first team players atm. The only players to come back into ghe first team are Cabye and Souare and then Tomkins. Or do you disagree and think he's missing someone out?

 

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View pstrutt's Profile pstrutt Flag Busselton, WA 13 Sep 16 10.41am Send a Private Message to pstrutt Add pstrutt as a friend

Originally posted by dmendenhall_9

I would argue that CW is half the reason we always complain about the bad service to him. He wins about half as many aerials as Benteke does and lost possession quite often. He was getting better but not even close to as good as a holdup striker as Benteke. I would be banging my head on how many headers he missed while watching him and how many times he got tackled with the ball at his feet and back to the opposition's goal. It will come good this year. Our service was as good as any other teams last year but just had no finish on it. Check out this little spreadsheet I made comparing crossing accuracy during last year's season.

[Link]

Interesting reading. I would suggest that the same applies to Benteke if better opposition is cutting out the crosses we put in. Friend was awful on Saturday and Wilf took advantage. We won't get such treatment from better clubs.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Sep 16 10.46am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by srh

Yes he does as does everyone else. We only have about 12 fit possible first team players atm. The only players to come back into ghe first team are Cabye and Souare and then Tomkins. Or do you disagree and think he's missing someone out?

Yes the bench at Mboro wasn't the strongest was it.

 


COYP

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OhthisbloodyPC Flag 13 Sep 16 12.04pm

Pardew's best team is Reading.


Sorry, couldn't resist that!

Bit unfair.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 13 Sep 16 12.58pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by pstrutt

Friend was awful on Saturday and Wilf took advantage.

It wasn't that long ago that loads on HOL were clamouring for us to buy him

 

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View pstrutt's Profile pstrutt Flag Busselton, WA 13 Sep 16 1.29pm Send a Private Message to pstrutt Add pstrutt as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It wasn't that long ago that loads on HOL were clamouring for us to buy him

I remember, and there was the usual debate, which Friend has nicely settled for us. He's not good enough for the PL!

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 13 Sep 16 2.00pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

"Does Pardew know his best team" is an interesting thread title as judging by the posts in the weekly "team for xxxxx" threads where everyone gives a different answer it seems that no-one knows our best team although many think that they do

 

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