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View KAOS's Profile KAOS Flag In a tree 25 Oct 16 6.41pm Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

before being relegated the season before

Of course! So based on that, let's f*ck this season off, get relegated and marvel at how amazing he is as we go up as Champions and come back to the Prem wiser & stronger &#128563;

 

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Originally posted by KAOS

Of course! So based on that, let's f*ck this season off, get relegated and marvel at how amazing he is as we go up as Champions and come back to the Prem wiser & stronger &#128563;

SP would boot Pardew out before January if there was a points danger of relegation. Last season there wasn't and several reasons for that awful run which kept his job.

Because of that I'll probably accept the frustrations. Any bad runs from here will no doubt see him go so in SP he won't go all ostrich on it.

 


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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 25 Oct 16 6.48pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by KAOS

Of course! So based on that, let's f*ck this season off, get relegated and marvel at how amazing he is as we go up as Champions and come back to the Prem wiser & stronger &#128563;

Now your just being stupid ain't you.

 

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View KAOS's Profile KAOS Flag In a tree 25 Oct 16 6.48pm Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Funnily enough I was here before 1st January which is why I look at his record as a whole not a random date that suits

As for spend heavily, what was the net spend again?
Also like I said, decent manager, not great, or did you chose to ignore that point too?

Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (25 Oct 2016 4.51pm)

I think it's fair to reflect from 1st Jan mate as it's been a sustained run of poor form and managers usually live/die by a run of form eh! All the pro Pardew brigade have to reference results over a year ago + so their argument for sticking him him stand up eh

 

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View KAOS's Profile KAOS Flag In a tree 25 Oct 16 6.49pm Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

Now your just being stupid ain't you.

Maybe a little yep but you get my point I'm sure now

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Oct 16 6.57pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by KAOS

I think it's fair to reflect from 1st Jan mate as it's been a sustained run of poor form and managers usually live/die by a run of form eh! All the pro Pardew brigade have to reference results over a year ago + so their argument for sticking him him stand up eh

Wigan were promoted as Champions last season under Caldwell and he has been sacked after 14 league games this season.Similarly, Zenga has only lasted 14 league games.Trollope took over Cardiff this year after they finished 8th last campaign and he was sacked recently after 11 games with the club in 23rd place.


 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 25 Oct 16 6.59pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by KAOS

I think it's fair to reflect from 1st Jan mate as it's been a sustained run of poor form and managers usually live/die by a run of form eh! All the pro Pardew brigade have to reference results over a year ago + so their argument for sticking him him stand up eh

And you don't think the fact we had pretty much secured our position in the league by Christmas, was under no real pressure to achieve anything other than premiership survival and a cup run taking us to the fa cup final had any impact on our form over the second half of the season.

And tbf to pardew his only been here just under 2 years and inherited a pretty poor squad in the first place. We are only here because we was lucky enough pulis was out of a job.

 

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View KAOS's Profile KAOS Flag In a tree 25 Oct 16 7.10pm Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

And you don't think the fact we had pretty much secured our position in the league by Christmas, was under no real pressure to achieve anything other than premiership survival and a cup run taking us to the fa cup final had any impact on our form over the second half of the season.

And tbf to pardew his only been here just under 2 years and inherited a pretty poor squad in the first place. We are only here because we was lucky enough pulis was out of a job.

Agree with 1st paragraph but find it unacceptable. A manager, with his 'experience', should be able to weather the storm in that time and I can't believe he was under no real pressure to sort it! This is business at the end of the day ...

As I said before, any references I make are based on the time we have sustained continual wobbly / questionable league form. If we had not one a few games recently I think he's now he the 1st management casualty in the Prem ... and that wouldn't be unwarranted either after 10 months of pony league results!


 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Oct 16 7.10pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Clearly the "Anti-Pardew" voices will reach a crescendo if we lose to Liverpool on Saturday.This of course will be a 3rd consecutive defeat !

 

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View eagle@ tn34's Profile eagle@ tn34 Flag hastings 25 Oct 16 9.08pm Send a Private Message to eagle@ tn34 Add eagle@ tn34 as a friend

People who want pardew out are entitled to their opinion. those who are happy with our league position are likewise entitled to their happiness. All I ask is for people to remember it is just a forum and does not lay down the rules for deciding if you are worthy of supporting of the club.

However I would just suggest that after the signings that have been made at palace and looking at the teams we have played I personaly would have expected more points, and thus be higher up the table.
Yes , sorry to break it to some people but we are still to play most of the big boys and if we dont bang a few goals past the likes of hull we are not going to progress let alone cement a place in the premiership.

What doesnt help pardews cause is the comments he makes post game when we lose such as " if we had scored first we would have won" ( no one could ever say if this is true) or "we didnt play our normal game today" (when we clearly have).

To sum up I am frustrated with pardews handling of the manager role but dont sack him now its far,far too early.

 

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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 25 Oct 16 9.24pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by KAOS

I think it's fair to reflect from 1st Jan mate as it's been a sustained run of poor form and managers usually live/die by a run of form eh! All the pro Pardew brigade have to reference results over a year ago + so their argument for sticking him him stand up eh

Why not go from the beginning of the season then? We were 5 unbeaten at one point and we are still mid table.

He deserved criticism last season, of course he did but to ignore his successes is hardly fair.

We are a million miles behind most if not all premiership clubs and a fair way behind a lot of championship clubs. We are in the first real stable period for as long as I can remember. Mid table should be considered success and anything beyond that a bonus.

As for Pardew being judged on results, as has been mentioned before he has the best win rate since Bruce and is one of our most successful managers in modern times.

 


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View KAOS's Profile KAOS Flag In a tree 25 Oct 16 9.42pm Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

Ok! I'll agree to not comment anymore unless we lose the next 2-3 games!!!

Speak in a couple of weeks yeah?!

 

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