Souare is left footed and is quick to deliver, which can work out brilliantly and other times the ball disappears into the heavens. He delivered a peach of a ball which Wickham scored off at the end of last season (I seem to remember). Kelly meanwhile is right footed and nearly always cuts in on his right foot in order to cross. I think his lack of a decent left foot was also exposed against West Ham. Souare does make mistakes but he's so quick and athletic that he can often recover, which is something Kelly and Ward often struggle with.

I worry about teams becoming aware of our weakness and exploiting it. I know others have suggested it but perhaps try Ledley there. He is good in the tackle and can pass and he's no slower than Kelly, plus he's struggled (in my opinion) in centre midfield of late.

Judging PS's crossing ability based on direct assists? Oh please, don't waste my time replying to that-we've had nobody in the right areas to convert them, or the wrong players ie Zaha, Yala, cabaye, Campbell. Whilst I agree he usually looks to cross early (pros and cons) his consistently is excellent, occasionally they go back stick but in theory a big man should be there. I sit on half way I'm the AW so have the perfect view. With Benteke or Wickham in there he'll get assists. As for kelly, the cross for Tekkers was excellent, but it was also a one off.

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Tomkins at right back, ward at left back could work, with dann and delaney at centre back. On paper very solid.

That or fryers at left back, who i would pick over kelly.

It is all a game of opinions.

Mine is that defensively we really do need to upgrade in a big way.

Mandanda, Dann and Tomkins are fine but then there is the rest.

Ward is an okay full back who has good games and bad. to take us to the next level though we need someone better.

Kelly is a poor mans Ward. He does a job when required but is never going to be first choice anywhere across the back line.

Souare, well we have to assume he will recover just fine. We do though need someone as good if not better than him especially as regards defensive duties.

Delaney I have huge respect for and will remember him forever. This season though he is being exposed and perhaps the years have sadly caught up with him.

Fryers is not the answer whatever the question may be. I can see his forward runs, I can see his closing down but I have not yet seen him put in one tackle!

Just my thoughts and I appreciate I am watching the games on television rather than live.

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Jesus! No my 20 years of Palace I can't think of a Palace player who can cross better than Soare- that's his main asset. Absolutely whips them in and gets them in early. Kelly on the other hand is a right footed CB playing at LB which says enough.

On the conversation however I think Kelly is a better defender than Fryers so would prefer him at present. Perhaps swap with Ward and get him in a RB

Lets have a right back too my friend as Ward is not good enough either !!

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Edited by comeonlad (28 Oct 2016 9.51am)