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View Mad4palace's Profile Mad4palace Flag 05 Nov 16 9.37pm Send a Private Message to Mad4palace Add Mad4palace as a friend

Originally posted by teedee

So agree re Jedinak, he is much more mobile than Ledley.

Jedinak is better than 3 of the midfielders we've still got: Ledley, Flamini, Mutch.

Cabaye and Ledley are inferior defensive mids, both recycle the ball better but offer little of the protection a proper DM is supposed to.

I think Pardew needs to rethink having McArthur as the furthest forward midfielder, he does a great job up there, pressing and supporting Benteke but we miss not having him back defending too. If they ever perfect human cloning, we could do with having 2 McArthurs, one DM and one advanced.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 05 Nov 16 10.33pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

We don't have anyone who can break up play as well as MJ does and in the right formation he is still very effective.

 

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View Cy Bais's Profile Cy Bais Flag Minneapolis MN 05 Nov 16 10.40pm Send a Private Message to Cy Bais Add Cy Bais as a friend

I'm wondering if Flamini was brought in to play Jedinak's role but we haven't seen much of Flamini this season

 

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View Mad4palace's Profile Mad4palace Flag 05 Nov 16 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Mad4palace Add Mad4palace as a friend

Jedinak and Cabaye actually had the right attributes to be a pretty good partnership in midfield. Bemused how Pardew couldn't see it.

 

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ParchmoreEagle Flag Belair 05 Nov 16 10.47pm

It's a valid point. Jedinak is missing in the dressing room, on the pitch when things get tough, and at training. We've never looked so ill-prepared as we have without him, which gives insight as to his hidden value in getting the players up to standard. If we had to replace him, which was also valid, then we had to replace him with someone who would replace his off-the-field leadership and on-the-field courage and determination. We let him go without doing that and we are missing him. It's a good point.

And BTW, someone laughed at me for suggesting Zaha at LB some time ago - well guess where he played?

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 06 Nov 16 7.14pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

i predict Jedi will be the shining Force in the bunch of no hopers that is Aston Villa. By January there will be premier league teams with chequebooks chasing after him.

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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Inapickle Flag South West 06 Nov 16 7.20pm

..we are missing Souare, Benteke is missing him too.

 

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View NickinOX's Profile NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 06 Nov 16 7.23pm Send a Private Message to NickinOX Add NickinOX as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

i predict Jedi will be the shining Force in the bunch of no hopers that is Aston Villa. By January there will be premier league teams with chequebooks chasing after him.

LMAO

 


If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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View sueagle2012's Profile sueagle2012 Flag 06 Nov 16 7.32pm Send a Private Message to sueagle2012 Add sueagle2012 as a friend

We miss Jedinak as captain and for his defensive cover, protecting Delaney, Dann and Tomkins.

With Jedinak in the team, there is no way we would have conceded 2 goals from corners against Liverpool.

With Jedinak, it is unlikely we would have been so open at the back as were against Leicester and Burnley.

Dann does not seem to have the same leadership qualities as Jedinak. Was Dann, in his role as captain to blame for the poor defensive organisation vs Burnley, especially for the last goal ?

Edited by sueagle2012 (06 Nov 2016 7.32pm)

 

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View NickinOX's Profile NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 06 Nov 16 7.48pm Send a Private Message to NickinOX Add NickinOX as a friend

I don't buy this at all. He was missing for much of 2015 when the team played really well without him.

In our great league run up to the Stoke match last season, he started one match, and only played for 200 minutes in total.

In the second half of the 2014-15 season, when we did so well, he rarely played.

Over the 2014-15 season our record with him in the team:
W6, D7, L11 (or 1.04 ppg)

Out of the team:
W7, D2, L5 (or 1.64 ppg)

Over the 2015-16 season with him in the team:
W4, D9, L14 (or 0.78 ppg)

Out of the team:
W7, D0, L4 (or 1.91 ppg)

So, he did make a difference to the team.

Edited by NickinOX (06 Nov 2016 7.49pm)

 


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Inapickle Flag South West 06 Nov 16 7.53pm

Originally posted by sueagle2012

We miss Jedinak as captain and for his defensive cover, protecting Delaney, Dann and Tomkins.

With Jedinak in the team, there is no way we would have conceded 2 goals from corners against Liverpool.

With Jedinak, it is unlikely we would have been so open at the back as were against Leicester and Burnley.

Dann does not seem to have the same leadership qualities as Jedinak. Was Dann, in his role as captain to blame for the poor defensive organisation vs Burnley, especially for the last goal ?

Edited by sueagle2012 (06 Nov 2016 7.32pm)

..Jedinak was awful and he would have been as awful against Burnley as all our luck was, their third goal was lost in our attack not our defence and they scored very well with it without any further help from us, the first goal was actually cleared away on the line but unluckily rebounded back, the defence was there to clear it and through luck failed..nothing more, the second was also very unfortunate for the keeper as the ball not only rebounded towards goal but also under the bar, it was a mistake that would probably never happen in another hundred similar situations for him, we must not also forget the mistake that their defender made with handling the ball for our second.

 

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Inapickle Flag South West 06 Nov 16 7.56pm

Originally posted by NickinOX

I don't buy this at all. He was missing for much of 2015 when the team played really well without him.

In our great league run up to the Stoke match last season, he started one match, and only played for 200 minutes in total.

In the second half of the 2014-15 season, when we did so well, he rarely played.

Over the 2014-15 season our record with him in the team:
W6, D7, L11 (or 1.04 ppg)

Out of the team:
W7, D2, L5 (or 1.64 ppg)

Over the 2015-16 season with him in the team:
W4, D9, L14 (or 0.78 ppg)

Out of the team:
W7, D0, L4 (or 1.91 ppg)

So, he did make a difference to the team.

Edited by NickinOX (06 Nov 2016 7.49pm)

..exactly, some people only see what they want to see, a bit like religion really.

Edited by Inapickle (06 Nov 2016 7.56pm)

 

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