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bodge 27 Nov 16 11.30am
Originally posted by sxp55 we have no leaders. no one who wants to take responsibility. That starts with the manager his position is untenable.
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27 Nov 16 11.30am

Originally posted by sxp55

we have no leaders. no one who wants to take responsibility.

That starts with the manager his position is untenable.

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Dangermouse Hastings 27 Nov 16 11.35am
Originally posted by Inapickle ..often wondered why nobody ever has any one standing on the posts during these sort of kicks, the keeper has to obviously still go for it but the amount of times they are left stranded leaves me wondering, in fact why don't they all just stand along the line and be done with it. Because if you have a player on the line they can put as many as they want on the line cos he's playing them all onside. That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Hastings 27 Nov 16 11.35am

Originally posted by Inapickle

..often wondered why nobody ever has any one standing on the posts during these sort of kicks, the keeper has to obviously still go for it but the amount of times they are left stranded leaves me wondering, in fact why don't they all just stand along the line and be done with it.

Because if you have a player on the line they can put as many as they want on the line cos he's playing them all onside.

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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scarlet Turkey 27 Nov 16 9.27pm
Good link! Originally posted by chateauferret This. [Link]
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Turkey 27 Nov 16 9.27pm

Good link!

Originally posted by chateauferret

This.

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JRW2 Dulwich 27 Nov 16 9.49pm
Originally posted by Dangermouse Because if you have a player on the line they can put as many as they want on the line cos he's playing them all onside. Out of interest, what if a defender stands behind the line? Will he get booked for leaving the field of play without the referee's permission? I know, totally off topic, but we need some sort of light relief.
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Dulwich 27 Nov 16 9.49pm

Originally posted by Dangermouse

Because if you have a player on the line they can put as many as they want on the line cos he's playing them all onside.

Out of interest, what if a defender stands behind the line? Will he get booked for leaving the field of play without the referee's permission?

I know, totally off topic, but we need some sort of light relief.

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chris123 hove actually 27 Nov 16 10.02pm
Originally posted by sxp55 we have no leaders. no one who wants to take responsibility. And we can't zonal mark.
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hove actually 27 Nov 16 10.02pm

Originally posted by sxp55

we have no leaders. no one who wants to take responsibility.

And we can't zonal mark.

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Dangermouse Hastings 27 Nov 16 11.29pm
Originally posted by chris123 And we can't zonal mark. A lot of teams are struggling with zonal marking this season. Many don't want to do it, but it's called the Mike Riley effect. It seems we are incapable of defending without grappling. That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Hastings 27 Nov 16 11.29pm

Originally posted by chris123

And we can't zonal mark.

A lot of teams are struggling with zonal marking this season. Many don't want to do it, but it's called the Mike Riley effect.
It seems we are incapable of defending without grappling.

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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dynamicdick Dormansland 27 Nov 16 11.43pm
Originally posted by Inapickle ..the argument being is that in attack he is one of the very best with his head...so why when going the other way is he sooooo bad with it. In attack you attack the ball, in defence you attack the player. Because he needs a rocket up his backside! Bring back Brolin
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Dormansland 27 Nov 16 11.43pm

Originally posted by Inapickle

..the argument being is that in attack he is one of the very best with his head...so why when going the other way is he sooooo bad with it.
In attack you attack the ball, in defence you attack the player.

Because he needs a rocket up his backside!

Bring back Brolin

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chateauferret 28 Nov 16 12.01am
Originally posted by Dangermouse A lot of teams are struggling with zonal marking this season. Many don't want to do it, but it's called the Mike Riley effect. It seems we are incapable of defending. Edited for accuracy. ============ The Ferret ============
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28 Nov 16 12.01am

Originally posted by Dangermouse

A lot of teams are struggling with zonal marking this season. Many don't want to do it, but it's called the Mike Riley effect.
It seems we are incapable of defending.

Edited for accuracy.

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The Ferret
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Thegamesafoot Somewhere but Nowhere 28 Nov 16 1.40am
Losing the dressing room? Demoralized, unmotivated or just unsure. I would actually prefer to think of our players as brainless rather than those "professionals" who under perform because they take against the manager. Chelsea players last season were a disgrace to football. Being an old git, I find a lot of things about modern football disappointing but being brainless is not one of them. It's good to keep an opened mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.
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Somewhere but Nowhere 28 Nov 16 1.40am

Losing the dressing room?
Demoralized, unmotivated or just unsure.
I would actually prefer to think of our players as brainless rather than those "professionals" who under perform because they take against the manager. Chelsea players last season were a disgrace to football.
Being an old git, I find a lot of things about modern football disappointing but being brainless is not one of them.

It's good to keep an opened mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.

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gmostone 28 Nov 16 2.06am
Simple solution: Bring back Dougie as the defensive coach. We were tight as anything when was in charge, couldn't score for love nor money, but that doesn't appear to be a problem St the moment.
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28 Nov 16 2.06am

Simple solution: Bring back Dougie as the defensive coach. We were tight as anything when was in charge, couldn't score for love nor money, but that doesn't appear to be a problem St the moment.

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The Dolphin 28 Nov 16 6.44am
Originally posted by Dangermouse At dead ball situations Benteke has a job to do. As a very talented player why shouldn't he be marking one of their danger players? Players aren't cutting it, no excuses. when I played football the centre half marked their centre forward - that was because he was best equipped to do that job. Why Benteke is being asked to do the job is beyond me and yet another reason why "we don't know what we're doing"!
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28 Nov 16 6.44am

Originally posted by Dangermouse

At dead ball situations Benteke has a job to do. As a very talented player why shouldn't he be marking one of their danger players? Players aren't cutting it, no excuses.

when I played football the centre half marked their centre forward - that was because he was best equipped to do that job.
Why Benteke is being asked to do the job is beyond me and yet another reason why "we don't know what we're doing"!

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Nobbybm Dartford 28 Nov 16 10.48am
Originally posted by The Dolphin when I played football the centre half marked their centre forward - that was because he was best equipped to do that job. Why Benteke is being asked to do the job is beyond me and yet another reason why "we don't know what we're doing"! Same here - you used your attackers in defence but you certainly didn't put them up against the opposing CF, that was the job of your best defender. I kind of agree with the Phil Neville article linked earlier. Watching each game it seems we are set up right but our inability to defend set pieces is a real Achilles heel - almost unthinkable considering our record last season. The manager doesn't cross that white line & professional footballers (at any level) should have an idea of how to close out a game. Really think that Dann is thinking more about others now he's captain rather than his own game & that's not helping and we miss Damo's 'defend at any cost' mentality. What the deal is with Flamini god only knows - I thought he was brought in to do the job we've needed doing in several games where we've let things slip. Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!
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Dartford 28 Nov 16 10.48am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Same here - you used your attackers in defence but you certainly didn't put them up against the opposing CF, that was the job of your best defender.

I kind of agree with the Phil Neville article linked earlier. Watching each game it seems we are set up right but our inability to defend set pieces is a real Achilles heel - almost unthinkable considering our record last season. The manager doesn't cross that white line & professional footballers (at any level) should have an idea of how to close out a game.

Really think that Dann is thinking more about others now he's captain rather than his own game & that's not helping and we miss Damo's 'defend at any cost' mentality.

What the deal is with Flamini god only knows - I thought he was brought in to do the job we've needed doing in several games where we've let things slip.

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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