Southern Rail Strike - right or wrong
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 11 Jan 17 6.53pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Quite agree but then they would be losing copious amounts of money, which comes before safety (whatever our HOL colleagues claim). Salary: £45,734 Once Qualified as per Southern That's a pittance how on earth can they afford a weekly case of Cristal? It would only leave circa £5,000 for the rest of your basic needs like the Beluga caviar.
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 Spiderman  Horsham 11 Jan 17 7.42pm |
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Originally posted by pefwin
Salary: £45,734 Once Qualified as per Southern That's a pittance how on earth can they afford a weekly case of Cristal? It would only leave circa £5,000 for the rest of your basic needs like the Beluga caviar. Yep. Train drivers are in the top 10% of wage earners. It was difficult to get them to work overtime.
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| 7mins In the bush 12 Jan 17 2.31am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I stand corrected but I am not so ignorant to realise this is not just about safety, it is a politically motivated attack on the Government ASLEF have had the same stance against extension of DOO when we had a labour government.
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| 7mins In the bush 12 Jan 17 2.38am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Yep. Train drivers are in the top 10% of wage earners. It was difficult to get them to work overtime. Train drivers earn 50k+ Train drivers are highly trained, and in demand... this means their wages reflect this. For a TOC to cancel a peak time train on a busy commuter route, can cost over 10k. A driver can earn his company the equivalent of his yearly salary in one day.
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 steph_eagle Thornton Heath 12 Jan 17 4.47am |
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Originally posted by 7mins
Train drivers earn 50k+ Train drivers are highly trained, and in demand... this means their wages reflect this. For a TOC to cancel a peak time train on a busy commuter route, can cost over 10k. A driver can earn his company the equivalent of his yearly salary in one day. The money quoted earlier was what has been advertised on their website for new drivers, you'd think one the managers would have told you before releasing the job advert. Edited by steph_eagle (12 Jan 2017 4.51am)
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| Helmet46 Croydon 12 Jan 17 5.52am |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Exactly. If they were that bothered about safety, they'd down tools and not return until the matter was resolved. This point gets ignored by pro-strike / pro-union posters. Edited by Helmet46 (12 Jan 2017 6.29am)
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 12 Jan 17 9.32am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Oh that's it the must be true!! If you read this thread drivers are in the top 10% of earners in this country so a few days strike will not break the bank. I have been a Union member for over 40 years so please don't call me mad You asked if there was any evidence. There is. You don't have to believe the evidence (as I intimated, I don't fully believe it), but it exists. I stand by what I said, the idea that losing half a month's pay doesn't hurt someone is farcical. They might be voting to strike for reasons other than safety, but they aren't going to be going on prolonged personally costly strikes just to give the government a bloody nose.
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| Only 10 a year!! 12 Jan 17 10.14am |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
You asked if there was any evidence. There is. You don't have to believe the evidence (as I intimated, I don't fully believe it), but it exists. I stand by what I said, the idea that losing half a month's pay doesn't hurt someone is farcical. They might be voting to strike for reasons other than safety, but they aren't going to be going on prolonged personally costly strikes just to give the government a bloody nose.
Edited by Only 10 a year!! (12 Jan 2017 10.14am)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Jan 17 11.13am |
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Interesting release from the RMT. RMT General Secretary Mick Cash said; “It is absolutely scandalous that the public purse will be footing the bill for any industrial action taken against private rail companies. We also now know that that at the same time rail bosses are going to make over £1 billion implementing the government’s policy of getting rid of guards. “It is clear that the Southern and other disputes are nothing to do with modernising our railway and everything to do with old fashioned union busting and cost cutting.”
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| Helmet46 Croydon 12 Jan 17 12.37pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Interesting release from the RMT. RMT General Secretary Mick Cash said; “It is absolutely scandalous that the public purse will be footing the bill for any industrial action taken against private rail companies. We also now know that that at the same time rail bosses are going to make over £1 billion implementing the government’s policy of getting rid of guards. “It is clear that the Southern and other disputes are nothing to do with modernising our railway and everything to do with old fashioned union busting and cost cutting.” Its pretty scandalous that the Helmet46 purse is being used to foot the bill for my increased costs in ensuring that I don't lose my job because of strike action.(Hotels, Taxis etc). Might send an expenses claim to the RMT and Aslef.
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| 7mins In the bush 12 Jan 17 12.41pm |
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Originally posted by steph_eagle
The money quoted earlier was what has been advertised on their website for new drivers, you'd think one the managers would have told you before releasing the job advert. Edited by steph_eagle (12 Jan 2017 4.51am) Drivers earn 46k for first year, then after a years service it jumps to 49k a year, plus they get paid extra for working Sundays, they're contracted to do 17 a year. Thus pushing their salary over 50k.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Jan 17 1.09pm |
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Originally posted by Helmet46
Its pretty scandalous that the Helmet46 purse is being used to foot the bill for my increased costs in ensuring that I don't lose my job because of strike action.(Hotels, Taxis etc). Might send an expenses claim to the RMT and Aslef.
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