I'd say the defensive frailties are also when passed in triangles at the back between full back and 2 outfield players. It's usually left back, whether left or right footed. There is also issues away from home being caught on the counter when taking corners. It isn't simply mark up, you go here and we're done. I think there is a general lack of thought by management and players of consequences of where and what they do. They've become care free in general. And the lack of backing up a teammate, that's evident, in possession as well. A full back in the final 3rd with no passing options.

The fixtures can't be that kind. Last time I looked, and I'm trying not to, just like I didn't look at the table after Everton, our run in was pretty much against the top 7. This Autumn we've had easier teams away and harder teams at home. Is it reverse next year at some point? I remember reading and agreeing we need to be safe by late March just like others who've been relegated needed to be. This is what concerns us regarding Pardew. There's no thought of next week or beyond. Nah f*** it, everyone attack the corner or bomb forward.

I do get the feeling Parish has been holding his breath he'll make it to the January window and bring in a few additions. Now we've beaten Southampton he's closer to that. Cover a few of the positions and the excuse options will disappear. But we've seen full strength Pardew teams not deliver or be poorly prepared so its not t going to mean definite top 10, but I'd hope it would mean no more risky losing runs that can get longer and longer.

Evidence? what do you want a video? i know for a fact that the players tore into Pardew and two senior players organised the defence and told him how its got to be. They were due light training Friday but went in and did a full day working with the back four as turned out on Saturday. Am told Pardew is quite strict and likes things his way but i will give him credit for listening to them but i don't think he had a choice.i think he had to change his pants early Thursday afternoon.

It was talked about on HOL radio, unless they're talking shyte as well.

Any evidence? Please post the link. Or a link to the source.

Or stfu!

No back-up = bulls***e!

edit: I also will take this opportunity to point out that you regularly call out Willo for being "in the know". Amusing to me

Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (06 Dec 2016 11.31pm)

Threads like this one make me laugh.

6 straight defeats, shipping 5 goals to the bottom club, no clean sheet for 17 matches and the worst league playing record of all football league clubs in 2016 FFS!

We get one fortuitous win to end that abysmal streak and here we are being told to "get a grip"?

Priceless!

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I agree with the above 6 wins in 12 months is disappointing to say the least. Anyone who said only this season counts is delusional. And somehow AP is becoming a hero. As for the Defence having a major input int the set up of the defence for saturday, That was the way it was, And that did come from inside the club, And that's the reason there was such a celebration by the whole team at the end of the game

Put the Cup Wins in to your figures,follow Alans record from the Dover game and it's far better reading.