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Inapickle Flag South West 15 Dec 16 8.38pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Wait...Benteke isn't a proper replacement for Murray (both things that happened under Perdu)? I'm missing the joke here. Someone explain the joke.

..we are basically now facing the problems we created ourselves when dithering and dallying over Mr Murray when all we had to do was play him and bring in Mr Gayle gently and not by not playing Mr Murray and putting huge massive silly pressure on Mr Gayle, too much time and effort spent on one part of our squad has left the other end with egg on it's face

 

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View Flightsequence's Profile Flightsequence Flag 15 Dec 16 8.42pm Send a Private Message to Flightsequence Add Flightsequence as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

You my dear, are a fool. That final sentence sums up the zombies who're willing to follow P1ss poor Pardew into the championship.

Gambling 1 point for 3 in a game weren't expecting much from is worth taking? You are Alan aren't you? Who have we got next? How many points have we won lately? That's his problem. Always going to win cos he knows it's doubtful he'll get fack all elsewhere.

Get the t1t out asap.

Not worth debating with you. Far more intelligent posters with proper reasoning rather than the rubbish above.

Edited by Flightsequence (15 Dec 2016 8.48pm)

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 15 Dec 16 8.47pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Originally posted by Inapickle

..we are basically now facing the problems we created ourselves when dithering and dallying over Mr Murray when all we had to do was play him and bring in Mr Gayle gently and not by not playing Mr Murray and putting huge massive silly pressure on Mr Gayle, too much time and effort spent on one part of our squad has left the other end with egg on it's face

Fair dues. I probably agree. But are you not a big fan of Perdu and didn't all this happen when he had the watch?

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 15 Dec 16 8.50pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Well...I don't agree all our problems now stem from that period. But I do agree we could have done Murray and Gayle situations better

Edited by Ginger Pubic Wig (15 Dec 2016 8.51pm)

 


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Whatever the ins and outs of our current situation and the self inflicted manner of our defeats, I think we have had some incredibly bad luck with match officials ,long term injuries etc.

 

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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 15 Dec 16 9.05pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by rollercoaster

What is worrying me is that the easy answer is just to say PARDEW OUT to everything that happens, and to say anybody who disagrees is DELUDED and STUPID. This leaves no room for useful debate and no room for balanced discussion.

We were clearly unlucky yesterday. The team clearly are fighting for Pardew. The disputed goal on the stroke of half-time with our bad run would have put the heads down of most teams but our team continue to fight. The subsitution had no impact on their second goal, Jimmy Mac wouldn't have been involved I don't think. At the time ManU were attacking with 8-9 players, could be Pardew was thinking by playing a hard running Campbell we could maybe reduce the tide.

However, I probably agree that Pardew's time is up but sacking him will be a high risk strategy and will only be made when it is 100% clear that we are not going to get out of this slump. I thing Pardew's tactics are questionable and have cost us a number of points this year. I also think the coaching of the team has gone downhill and hold Pardew responsible for this. In hindsight the board should have replaced Pardew in the Summer in the light of our terrible form in the second half of last year.

Well said. The inability of some people to see beyond what appears to be irrational hatred is stopping any discussion following (the last two) games

 


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View Flightsequence's Profile Flightsequence Flag 15 Dec 16 9.10pm Send a Private Message to Flightsequence Add Flightsequence as a friend

Originally posted by rollercoaster

What is worrying me is that the easy answer is just to say PARDEW OUT to everything that happens, and to say anybody who disagrees is DELUDED and STUPID. This leaves no room for useful debate and no room for balanced discussion.

We were clearly unlucky yesterday. The team clearly are fighting for Pardew. The disputed goal on the stroke of half-time with our bad run would have put the heads down of most teams but our team continue to fight. The subsitution had no impact on their second goal, Jimmy Mac wouldn't have been involved I don't think. At the time ManU were attacking with 8-9 players, could be Pardew was thinking by playing a hard running Campbell we could maybe reduce the tide.

However, I probably agree that Pardew's time is up but sacking him will be a high risk strategy and will only be made when it is 100% clear that we are not going to get out of this slump. I thing Pardew's tactics are questionable and have cost us a number of points this year. I also think the coaching of the team has gone downhill and hold Pardew responsible for this. In hindsight the board should have replaced Pardew in the Summer in the light of our terrible form in the second half of last year.

Very well reasoned post.

 

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Inapickle Flag South West 15 Dec 16 9.16pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Fair dues. I probably agree. But are you not a big fan of Perdu and didn't all this happen when he had the watch?

.. Pulis, Warnock and Pardew all had a part in not using Murray properly.

 

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Inapickle Flag South West 15 Dec 16 9.27pm

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

Whatever the ins and outs of our current situation and the self inflicted manner of our defeats, I think we have had some incredibly bad luck with match officials ,long term injuries etc.

Yes, the amount of mistakes made by Mr Pardew are minuscule and very distant in comparison to all the cock ups from the officials and injuries to very important players we desperately need.

 

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View dannyh's Profile dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 16 Dec 16 9.09am Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Originally posted by rollercoaster

What is worrying me is that the easy answer is just to say PARDEW OUT to everything that happens, and to say anybody who disagrees is DELUDED and STUPID. This leaves no room for useful debate and no room for balanced discussion.

Ok fair point, everybody is entitled to an opinion, so here's mine 6 wins in 41 games.

We were clearly unlucky yesterday.

Man United had just as many if not more decisions go against them. Clear Handball, offside goal that wasn't Cabaye and it's arguable Lee should have walked for basically a studs up high tackle on big nose.

The team clearly are fighting for Pardew. The disputed goal on the stroke of half-time with our bad run would have put the heads down of most teams but our team continue to fight.

They are footballers paid very large sums of money to fight and play regardless of the score, that is the very minimum we should expect as the paying fans of our club. To be thankful for the players doing their jobs ?? Nope sorry thats the bare minimum they should be doing. And I think they are fighting for the club and fans not AP.


The subsitution had no impact on their second goal, Jimmy Mac wouldn't have been involved I don't think. At the time ManU were attacking with 8-9 players, could be Pardew was thinking by playing a hard running Campbell we could maybe reduce the tide.


Are you seriously suggesting that taking off one of the hardest working midfielder's we have ever seen at Selhurst and replacing him with a very very average (I'm being kind) Striker was the right thing to do when you are hanging on for your life in the dying embers of a game ? Because if you are then I would doubt your opinions to be based on anything else than a love for Pardew that clouds rational thought.

However, I probably agree that Pardew's time is up but sacking him will be a high risk strategy and will only be made when it is 100% clear that we are not going to get out of this slump.

Slump !!?? 6 wins in 41 games is not a "Slump" it's the worst wins to games ratio in any professional league in Europe. He should have gone after the loss to Swansea. I don't know what more reasoned argument, backed up with stats I can give you, to show with him here we go down.

I thing Pardew's tactics are questionable and have cost us a number of points this year. I also think the coaching of the team has gone downhill and hold Pardew responsible for this. In hindsight the board should have replaced Pardew in the Summer in the light of our terrible form in the second half of last year.

Somewhat of a u turn from the start of your post, but this I agree with.

Edited by dannyh (16 Dec 2016 9.10am)

 


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View dannyh's Profile dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 16 Dec 16 9.12am Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Originally posted by Inapickle

Yes, the amount of mistakes made by Mr Pardew are minuscule and very distant in comparison to all the cock ups from the officials and injuries to very important players we desperately need.

That's just BolIocks.

 


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Originally posted by rawpalace05

..or just kick Pards?

Team selection looked odd. But, Lee was good as was Flamini.

Then, the ref (who was terrible) should have both ruled out their opener and sent off their man for the bad challenge. This changes the entire game.

We scored a great goal, generally looked solid and deserved the 1-1 based on the above.

I will acknowledge that a)we should have cut out zlatan for the winner (who along with the overated pogba was bang average) and b)the MCcarthur sub (best player on the pitch by some way imo) made no sense

But, will the haters acknowledge any merits or positive moves on Pardews part?

What about the Man U goal that was ruled out for offside but it was actually onside?

 

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