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Rudi Hedman Caterham 20 Dec 16 8.44am
Originally posted by The Dolphin s a tell a plethora of stories I agree. The fact is that our results are dreadful and have been for a year now. Yes we have injury trouble but realistically which of those would be playing? Souare for sure, Mandanda maybe but would he make a difference? Remy we haven't ever seen so I don't count him. Wickham was always a sub so far. In reality the team that is playing is pretty much the one that would be playing even if we were at full strength. So much is wrong on the playing side - including transfers - and has been for ages. The facts cannot be disguised. The last two games have shown that there is light at the end of the tunnel - it remains to be seen whether we can raise our game to the same levels against the likes of Watford - lose there and it will be all change! This is the thing. When the team is a strong one the same managerial or player more stakes have occurred since August. Wasted opportunities at dross teams gifting goals away. Apathy and poor preparation for West Brom and West Ham. Umpteen points chucked away in the final 10 minutes of games. These things are going to cost us, could be rectified if we had a capable manager. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 20 Dec 16 8.44am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

s a tell a plethora of stories I agree.
The fact is that our results are dreadful and have been for a year now.
Yes we have injury trouble but realistically which of those would be playing?
Souare for sure, Mandanda maybe but would he make a difference?
Remy we haven't ever seen so I don't count him.
Wickham was always a sub so far.
In reality the team that is playing is pretty much the one that would be playing even if we were at full strength.
So much is wrong on the playing side - including transfers - and has been for ages.
The facts cannot be disguised.
The last two games have shown that there is light at the end of the tunnel - it remains to be seen whether we can raise our game to the same levels against the likes of Watford - lose there and it will be all change!

This is the thing. When the team is a strong one the same managerial or player more stakes have occurred since August.

Wasted opportunities at dross teams gifting goals away.

Apathy and poor preparation for West Brom and West Ham.

Umpteen points chucked away in the final 10 minutes of games.

These things are going to cost us, could be rectified if we had a capable manager.

COYP

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.TUX. 20 Dec 16 9.17am
Yes. Buy Litecoin.
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20 Dec 16 9.17am

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Den1923 20 Dec 16 11.09am
Originally posted by chateauferret But Howe has more modest resources and doesn't do f***** stupid things. and his players have good game plans and they defend deep and our much better getting the ball forward, have a great centre back and the whole team fights for every ball and EH is a manager that has earned respect on a much smaller budget but clever buy's or loan signings like ''AKE'' & "Wilshire''
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20 Dec 16 11.09am

Originally posted by chateauferret

But Howe has more modest resources and doesn't do f***** stupid things.

and his players have good game plans and they defend deep and our much better getting the ball forward, have a great centre back and the whole team fights for every ball and EH is a manager that has earned respect on a much smaller budget but clever buy's or loan signings like ''AKE'' & "Wilshire''

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spartakev2 Anerley 20 Dec 16 11.15am
I think it all depends on this transfer window. We need to buy big, and buy well. If we do we should be ok. Swansea are in deep trouble, as are Hull, and if Sunderland don't spend, which apparently they won't, they are in trouble. Add Middlesbrough and Burnley I'm too and I'd be amazed and infuriated if we go down.
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Anerley 20 Dec 16 11.15am

I think it all depends on this transfer window. We need to buy big, and buy well. If we do we should be ok. Swansea are in deep trouble, as are Hull, and if Sunderland don't spend, which apparently they won't, they are in trouble. Add Middlesbrough and Burnley I'm too and I'd be amazed and infuriated if we go down.

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pompeyeagle Relocated to Shropshire 20 Dec 16 11.56am
If Pardew stays then no, if he goes then at least we have a chance depending on who comes in.
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Relocated to Shropshire 20 Dec 16 11.56am

If Pardew stays then no, if he goes then at least we have a chance depending on who comes in.

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Palace in the Blood 20 Dec 16 12.45pm
Originally posted by pompeyeagle If Pardew stays then no, if he goes then at least we have a chance depending on who comes in. I am not a great Pardew supporter but I think that we will stay up with him, it may be close but I think we will. If we replace him who with? the experienced EPL managers out of work who would come all play "Pullis" type tactics? Would we swap Pardew for them? I fear the reverse if we change manager we will be relegated
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Originally posted by pompeyeagle

If Pardew stays then no, if he goes then at least we have a chance depending on who comes in.

I am not a great Pardew supporter but I think that we will stay up with him, it may be close but I think we will. If we replace him who with? the experienced EPL managers out of work who would come all play "Pullis" type tactics? Would we swap Pardew for them? I fear the reverse if we change manager we will be relegated

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sickboy Deal or Croydon 20 Dec 16 1.36pm
Originally posted by chateauferret Actually we have this wonderful modern invention called the "television". You should get one. You can see matches for yourself and make your own mind up. Bournemouth are well organised, well trained, well disciplined and properly managed. We aren't. Sorry if you don't like that, but it's the truth. Whats that got to do with more moderate resources. Youve already been told twice in this thread that Bournemouth are being investigated for ffp for their promotion season having been bankrolled by their billionaire owner, but your have chosen to ignore it. You have also had stats pointed out to you that you choose to ignore because it doesnt suit your agenda. As for the poor attempt at humour /sarcasm. dont be a t***.
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Deal or Croydon 20 Dec 16 1.36pm

Originally posted by chateauferret

Actually we have this wonderful modern invention called the "television". You should get one. You can see matches for yourself and make your own mind up.

Bournemouth are well organised, well trained, well disciplined and properly managed. We aren't. Sorry if you don't like that, but it's the truth.

Whats that got to do with more moderate resources. Youve already been told twice in this thread that Bournemouth are being investigated for ffp for their promotion season having been bankrolled by their billionaire owner, but your have chosen to ignore it. You have also had stats pointed out to you that you choose to ignore because it doesnt suit your agenda. As for the poor attempt at humour /sarcasm. dont be a t***.

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Den1923 20 Dec 16 1.53pm
Originally posted by Palace in the Blood I am not a great Pardew supporter but I think that we will stay up with him, it may be close but I think we will. If we replace him who with? the experienced EPL managers out of work who would come all play "Pullis" type tactics? Would we swap Pardew for them? I fear the reverse if we change manager we will be relegated I do not necessarily agree because I fear that AP does not have the ability to change for sometime now his tactics have been wrong in PL (almost a year now) and he does not seem to be able to change remarks like I'm not bothered about conceding goals clearly show's his ineptitude. There is nothing wrong with TP type of football and if 0-0 or 1-0 get you points who cares. Staying in this league is very important as it gives the revenue streams to take the club to even greater horizons. I do feel SP has left it too late to change now as the team clearly needs sound investment in the window and I'm frankly fed up with AP's sick note mates coming to us at grossly elevated fee's.
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Den1923

20 Dec 16 1.53pm

Originally posted by Palace in the Blood

I do not necessarily agree because I fear that AP does not have the ability to change for sometime now his tactics have been wrong in PL (almost a year now) and he does not seem to be able to change remarks like I'm not bothered about conceding goals clearly show's his ineptitude. There is nothing wrong with TP type of football and if 0-0 or 1-0 get you points who cares. Staying in this league is very important as it gives the revenue streams to take the club to even greater horizons. I do feel SP has left it too late to change now as the team clearly needs sound investment in the window and I'm frankly fed up with AP's sick note mates coming to us at grossly elevated fee's.

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collier row eagle romford essex via another galaxy 20 Dec 16 1.54pm
I have just put £20 on Palace going down, does that answer your question?
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romford essex via another galaxy 20 Dec 16 1.54pm

I have just put £20 on Palace going down, does that answer your question?

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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Dec 16 2.11pm
Originally posted by collier row eagle I have just put £20 on Palace going down, does that answer your question? Dave did you get 4/1. ? Get on Deeney first goal 5/1. Palace 13th 2017/18.
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alaneagle1

Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Dec 16 2.11pm

Originally posted by collier row eagle

I have just put £20 on Palace going down, does that answer your question?

Dave did you get 4/1. ?

Get on Deeney first goal 5/1.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Dec 16 2.22pm
Originally posted by spartakev2 I think it all depends on this transfer window. We need to buy big, and buy well. If we do we should be ok. Swansea are in deep trouble, as are Hull, and if Sunderland don't spend, which apparently they won't, they are in trouble. Add Middlesbrough and Burnley I'm too and I'd be amazed and infuriated if we go down. We have purchased big and we now know that we have not bought well. So on January 1st we simply need an experienced left Back (who can kick with his left foot). And I think we will be OK.To stay up. Not confident with AP signing any strikers,and unfortunately the club have sold two of the best. Pardew has had 4 Windows and has NOT improved the team. Palace 13th 2017/18.
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alaneagle1

Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Dec 16 2.22pm

Originally posted by spartakev2

I think it all depends on this transfer window. We need to buy big, and buy well. If we do we should be ok. Swansea are in deep trouble, as are Hull, and if Sunderland don't spend, which apparently they won't, they are in trouble. Add Middlesbrough and Burnley I'm too and I'd be amazed and infuriated if we go down.

We have purchased big and we now know that we have not bought well.

So on January 1st we simply need an experienced left Back (who can kick with his left foot).

And I think we will be OK.To stay up.

Not confident with AP signing any strikers,and unfortunately the club have sold two of the best.

Pardew has had 4 Windows and has NOT improved the team.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

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Jacey 20 Dec 16 2.35pm
Last Xmas, we were 5th in the table and had a significant points cushion. This Xmas, we are just one point above the drop zone and will probably be in the bottom 3 after the Arsenal game. Very difficult with our unbelievable bad run of results to see how we will stay up this season. Hope Pardew and the boys can prove me wrong, starting at Watford,but not holding my breath.
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Jacey

20 Dec 16 2.35pm

Last Xmas, we were 5th in the table and had a significant points cushion.
This Xmas, we are just one point above the drop zone and will probably be in the bottom 3 after the Arsenal game.
Very difficult with our unbelievable bad run of results to see how we will stay up this season.
Hope Pardew and the boys can prove me wrong, starting at Watford,but not holding my breath.

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