Ok we have improved the first half of this season since the second half of last. 11 points last 19 games, 15 first 17. Clearly things are on the up?

Do you think Leicester fans think everything is fine because of the amo8nt of points they got last season?

As I said, I want AP gone but the OP stats prove nothing

I think it does and I don't understand why people refuse to see the huge significance in the difference between a bad run of form that lasts a couple of months and a bad run of form that has stretched over an entire year.

If it were just a couple of months you could argue that he's been unlucky with injuries, the players are adjusting to a new style or any other number of reasons. Doing badly for this long indicates that something is fundamentally wrong with his management of the club.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

Well last season we couldn't score with Ade leading the line, with Gayle I guess --but our Defence was very solid. This season, we score for fun, 5th in the league or some such. But our defence has sucked eggs.

So yes, we have had bad runs, but I see them very differently. We all knew we needed a striker badly last January, we got Ade.

It makes sense we focused on scoring. They got Big Ben, and townsend (who probably scored more than Bolasie), and Remy. Yes, many people felt we were light on FBs, but Pape was solid.

No way Parish could know that Pape would crash and be done for the season. Even then we would have been ok if tomkins had stayed fit. Dann has lost confidence and Damo was supposed to be cover at 35. And our stikrer plan assumed Remy would play some games, and Wickham would continue to be a force when we needed to play 2 up front. So the plan is off the rails.

Good news is there is a chance to fill some holes and improve the squad soon. But THIS season's issue with bad form are very different.

End of last season we had no one scoring goals but Dann. This season we have no one preventing goals, which I think is a cheaper fix.

The Leicester fans (minority) who are unhappy are deluded & fail to see the last seasons achievements unlikely to replicated anytime soon won't be enough to upset the applecart. I fail to see how Leicester have got dragged into this! The stats even out & it bares no relevance to state we are marginally doing better this half & than last half if you factor in the additions it's a even bleaker picture on reflection.

I mentioned Leicester originally to illustrate the futility of I sung last season's points. They don't count, they've been used Leicester are now struggling, all those points they gained pfft gone. You responded about RC credit in the bank. Not with everyone

Why does 4 points more in 2 less games bare no relevance? Does it not demonstrate an improvement?

You want to factor in our additions? Fair enough, what about everyone else's additions too?

Anyway we both want the same thing, we just disagree about the point of reference

Completely agree with this. My issue with the whole Pardew in/out debate is consistency. Happy to disregard last season's results but in that instance I also don't regard the FA Cup or his first season's results as valid reasons to keep him.

Based purely on this season, 0.88 points a game will give us about 34 points over the season, which will virtually always end in relegation.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...