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View Sherlock Holmesdale's Profile Sherlock Holmesdale Flag Milton Keynes 23 Dec 16 9.41am Send a Private Message to Sherlock Holmesdale Add Sherlock Holmesdale as a friend

Originally posted by Stuttgartmetal

There was a one all on the cards before he subbed 3 minutes from the whistle, leaving MacArthur sized hole for ibrahimovitch to score from
Ridiculous
And not the first time he's done that

McArthur being subbed had nothing to do with us losing that game

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 23 Dec 16 9.53am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by essetwentyone


I think we should be massively grateful that we have Steve Parish at the helm of our club. He obviously liked Pardew and went out of his way to get him and then totally backed him on transfers, tactics and in the media however he is astute enough to see the light and to act decisively for the best interest of the club. With the transfer window coming up and Big Sam available he acted to prevent us sliding deeper into the mire. There is just too much at stake to leave things as they were. He has barely put a foot wrong since he took over the club and once again I totally back him in this latest decision. No way could he gamble on Pardew based on the 2016 league stats.

Yes. Parish had me really concerned for a while. Really concerned.

It's cost us (CPFC) a large part of the budget we'd otherwise spend on players or training infrastructure requirements but it had to be done. Extending for 5 years to 2021 I'll never understand and I'm sure Steve Parish looks at that, feels the financial pain and regrets it. But successful people have to use it positively. He's no doubt employed people he wished he hadn't so makes it a bit easier.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 23 Dec 16 9.57am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Sherlock Holmesdale

McArthur being subbed had nothing to do with us losing that game

Watch the last 5-10 mins again. MacArthur was in and out of that area Cabaye pathetically fell under and to the side of Pogba. Campbell is a forward and was in front of the ball the whole time he was on.

It certainly didn't make us more able to see out a point did it?

It showed us yet again how Pardew thinks. He puts himself in these ruts of hunting wins every minute and match and week and getting nothing because he did it last match, before that, before that and repeat all the fingers on your hand.

Had to go. Cannot quietly accumulate points like the respected managers do.

 


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View Username's Profile Username Flag Horsham 23 Dec 16 10.03am Send a Private Message to Username Add Username as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

It's difficult to say without seeing how we'd have got on at Watford and against Swansea, if there hadn't been a management change. My fear was that, if we'd got points from those two, Pardew would have then reverted to type again (like he did at Hull, after Southampton) and I'm not sure how much more of that we could have taken before we were beyond redemption.

Being somewhat senior myself, I agree with you on the rest, but we'd never achieve the badly needed infrastructure improvements outside of the PL.

Part of the issue I think is that because of the length of the run, things were getting magnified to a ridiculous degree. I don't think any substitutions have ever been as scrutinised as in the last four weeks. Cabaye comes on against Hull and we concede, so therefore he's crap and it's all his fault etc.

I do agree that I'm not sure we'd hit rock bottom yet. For large parts of every game we were playing well and scoring goals, it just wasn't clicking.

The example I gave when speaking to people was of Warnock's last game when Southampton beat us 3-0 at Selhurst. That game was so abject and the performance so lifeless, that there could have been no one watching who could have thought NW was going to stay in charge. I never felt we got to that stage with Pardew. It's always felt this season that we were really close to getting it right.

That's not to say I think it's the wrong call, I'm probably one of many who'd reached the 'meh' stage. I didn't necessarily want him sacked, but at the same time each passing day made it feel more inevitable.

 


Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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View si_1967's Profile si_1967 Flag Surrey 23 Dec 16 10.26am Send a Private Message to si_1967 Add si_1967 as a friend

Originally posted by Sherlock Holmesdale

McArthur being subbed had nothing to do with us losing that game

Why did you come on and just re-hash a point that Rudi has been trying to explain for the last 5 pages!!

Okay, let's try one more time:
No one can prove that the sub made any difference, but it certainly didn't help, and that's the point. It was a best a stupid sub and at worst an arrogant sub.

I've never really played football not at any standard, but my immediate reaction, at the time, when he made the change was "What the F*** he's doing" and that feeling still stands, obviously I can't prove it was the decisive factor.

I have asked various people since about what they would do in that situation (including my wife) and they've all said "hang on for a point" or bring on a defender/midfielder if you have to make a change.

His own worst enemy in this situation i'm afraid

 


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View MKCPFC's Profile MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 23 Dec 16 10.40am Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Username

Part of the issue I think is that because of the length of the run, things were getting magnified to a ridiculous degree. I don't think any substitutions have ever been as scrutinised as in the last four weeks. Cabaye comes on against Hull and we concede, so therefore he's crap and it's all his fault etc.

I do agree that I'm not sure we'd hit rock bottom yet. For large parts of every game we were playing well and scoring goals, it just wasn't clicking.

The example I gave when speaking to people was of Warnock's last game when Southampton beat us 3-0 at Selhurst. That game was so abject and the performance so lifeless, that there could have been no one watching who could have thought NW was going to stay in charge. I never felt we got to that stage with Pardew. It's always felt this season that we were really close to getting it right.

That's not to say I think it's the wrong call, I'm probably one of many who'd reached the 'meh' stage. I didn't necessarily want him sacked, but at the same time each passing day made it feel more inevitable.

Pardew's was the Swansea farce.

 

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View essetwentyone's Profile essetwentyone Flag london 23 Dec 16 11.56am Send a Private Message to essetwentyone Add essetwentyone as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Watch the last 5-10 mins again. MacArthur was in and out of that area Cabaye pathetically fell under and to the side of Pogba. Campbell is a forward and was in front of the ball the whole time he was on.

It certainly didn't make us more able to see out a point did it?

It showed us yet again how Pardew thinks. He puts himself in these ruts of hunting wins every minute and match and week and getting nothing because he did it last match, before that, before that and repeat all the fingers on your hand.

Had to go. Cannot quietly accumulate points like the respected managers do.

 

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View essetwentyone's Profile essetwentyone Flag london 23 Dec 16 11.57am Send a Private Message to essetwentyone Add essetwentyone as a friend

If they can't get it by now Rudi they never will !

 

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 23 Dec 16 12.19pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

At the end of the say we will probably gave to win 9 of our last 21 games to stay up. Could anyone really see this happening with pardew in charge?

 

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