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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Dec 16 3.36pm
Originally posted by susmik Even the media has picked up his inept refereeing at our games. They have stated out of fifteen games we drew 7 and lost 8 which is unprecedented for any team. They also mentioned the way we lost the FA cup match so we are not alone in not trusting the jerk. Suppose Clattenburg was responsible for Mata and Lingard scoring.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Dec 16 3.36pm

Originally posted by susmik

Even the media has picked up his inept refereeing at our games. They have stated out of fifteen games we drew 7 and lost 8 which is unprecedented for any team. They also mentioned the way we lost the FA cup match so we are not alone in not trusting the jerk.

Suppose Clattenburg was responsible for Mata and Lingard scoring.

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pieman203 Hayes 29 Dec 16 3.41pm
That LINK just about sums up the Sun I quote, " and his officiating has not went unnoticed" great English from a great English paper.
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pieman203

Hayes 29 Dec 16 3.41pm

That LINK just about sums up the Sun I quote, " and his officiating has not went unnoticed" great English from a great English paper.

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 29 Dec 16 3.44pm
Originally posted by Willo Suppose Clattenburg was responsible for Mata and Lingard scoring. No but Cluntenburg should have given us more than he did and maybe the game would have ended a lot differently as most of the media has said. He dislikes our club intensely and we will never win a game with him in charge which again the media has suggested. He is a man that likes to be the centre of attention and that is why he does what he does and ends up with all the flack from fans and media.... We cannot ALL be wrong and the figures prove it willo old chap.. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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susmik

PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 29 Dec 16 3.44pm

Originally posted by Willo

Suppose Clattenburg was responsible for Mata and Lingard scoring.

No but Cluntenburg should have given us more than he did and maybe the game would have ended a lot differently as most of the media has said. He dislikes our club intensely and we will never win a game with him in charge which again the media has suggested.
He is a man that likes to be the centre of attention and that is why he does what he does and ends up with all the flack from fans and media.... We cannot ALL be wrong and the figures prove it willo old chap..

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Dec 16 3.50pm
Originally posted by susmik No but Cluntenburg should have given us more than he did and maybe the game would have ended a lot differently as most of the media has said. He dislikes our club intensely and we will never win a game with him in charge which again the media has suggested. He is a man that likes to be the centre of attention and that is why he does what he does and ends up with all the flack from fans and media.... We cannot ALL be wrong and the figures prove it willo old chap.. Suppose Clattenburg was responsible for Benteke missing the penalty which would have given us all the points. And all those games we haven't won whilst he has been refereeing have all been down to him !!! Dear oh dear oh dear. Edited by Willo (29 Dec 2016 3.53pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Dec 16 3.50pm

Originally posted by susmik

Suppose Clattenburg was responsible for Benteke missing the penalty which would have given us all the points.

And all those games we haven't won whilst he has been refereeing have all been down to him !!!

Dear oh dear oh dear.

Edited by Willo (29 Dec 2016 3.53pm)

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 29 Dec 16 3.53pm
Originally posted by Willo Suppose Clattenburg was responsible for Benteke missing the penalty which would have given us all the points. And all those games we haven't won whilst he has been refereeing have all been down to him !!! Dear oh dear oh dear. Edited by Willo (29 Dec 2016 3.53pm) What ...NO comment???? Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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susmik

PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 29 Dec 16 3.53pm

Originally posted by Willo

Suppose Clattenburg was responsible for Benteke missing the penalty which would have given us all the points.

And all those games we haven't won whilst he has been refereeing have all been down to him !!!

Dear oh dear oh dear.

Edited by Willo (29 Dec 2016 3.53pm)

What ...NO comment????

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Dec 16 3.55pm
Originally posted by susmik What ...NO comment???? I've made my view perfectly clear.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Dec 16 3.55pm

Originally posted by susmik

What ...NO comment????

I've made my view perfectly clear.

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steph_eagle Thornton Heath 29 Dec 16 4.01pm
Originally posted by Willo I've made my view perfectly clear. Oh and don't we know what that is.
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steph_eagle

Thornton Heath 29 Dec 16 4.01pm

Originally posted by Willo

I've made my view perfectly clear.

Oh and don't we know what that is.

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chateauferret 29 Dec 16 4.02pm
Originally posted by Willo Suppose Clattenburg was responsible for Benteke missing the penalty which would have given us all the points. And all those games we haven't won whilst he has been refereeing have all been down to him !!! Dear oh dear oh dear. Edited by Willo (29 Dec 2016 3.53pm) Nobody made any such claim and you know it. What was claimed is that this referee does not apply the Laws fairly and consistently and that we suffer a net disadvantage as a result relative to certain other clubs. I find the evidence for that claim compelling and your best counterargument seems to consist of a series of press releases and ad hominems. Edited by chateauferret (29 Dec 2016 4.03pm) ============ The Ferret ============
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chateauferret

29 Dec 16 4.02pm

Originally posted by Willo

Suppose Clattenburg was responsible for Benteke missing the penalty which would have given us all the points.

And all those games we haven't won whilst he has been refereeing have all been down to him !!!

Dear oh dear oh dear.

Edited by Willo (29 Dec 2016 3.53pm)

Nobody made any such claim and you know it. What was claimed is that this referee does not apply the Laws fairly and consistently and that we suffer a net disadvantage as a result relative to certain other clubs. I find the evidence for that claim compelling and your best counterargument seems to consist of a series of press releases and ad hominems.

Edited by chateauferret (29 Dec 2016 4.03pm)

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 29 Dec 16 4.04pm
Originally posted by Willo Suppose Clattenburg was responsible for Benteke missing the penalty which would have given us all the points. And all those games we haven't won whilst he has been refereeing have all been down to him !!! Dear oh dear oh dear. Edited by Willo (29 Dec 2016 3.53pm) It is ALL the dubious decisions he makes throughout the game that is against us. Like not giving us a penalty when we should have one (I was surprised he gave one in the last game) his bad one sided decisions are so obvious I am sure the fourth official walks round with his eyes shut. Also the ref association official that is at all matches NEVER ever picks ANY ref up for bad refereeing and I have written to the FA and Refs Association about but they will never reply as they are a law unto themselves as some EX TOP refs will say the same. You can stick up for refs all you like but you will never convince most fans in all leagues that referees do a fine job in fact the usual outcry is that they need more training and more watching. Lets hope they bring in video replays sooner than later then Cluntenburg can stand by he will get shot down in flames and will not be picking up any more Fixed awards....Thank God. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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susmik

PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 29 Dec 16 4.04pm

Originally posted by Willo

Suppose Clattenburg was responsible for Benteke missing the penalty which would have given us all the points.

And all those games we haven't won whilst he has been refereeing have all been down to him !!!

Dear oh dear oh dear.

Edited by Willo (29 Dec 2016 3.53pm)

It is ALL the dubious decisions he makes throughout the game that is against us. Like not giving us a penalty when we should have one (I was surprised he gave one in the last game) his bad one sided decisions are so obvious I am sure the fourth official walks round with his eyes shut. Also the ref association official that is at all matches NEVER ever picks ANY ref up for bad refereeing and I have written to the FA and Refs Association about but they will never reply as they are a law unto themselves as some EX TOP refs will say the same. You can stick up for refs all you like but you will never convince most fans in all leagues that referees do a fine job in fact the usual outcry is that they need more training and more watching. Lets hope they bring in video replays sooner than later then Cluntenburg can stand by he will get shot down in flames and will not be picking up any more Fixed awards....Thank God.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Dec 16 4.28pm
Originally posted by chateauferret Nobody made any such claim and you know it. What was claimed is that this referee does not apply the Laws fairly and consistently and that we suffer a net disadvantage as a result relative to certain other clubs. I find the evidence for that claim compelling and your best counterargument seems to consist of a series of press releases and ad hominems. Edited by chateauferret (29 Dec 2016 4.03pm) Totally and utterly disagree that Mark somehow makes decisions against us knowing them to be wrong and purposely sets out to ensure that he doesn't apply the laws fairly .This is hogwash of the highest degree.Some need to look at the failings of our own team and not have any sort of persecution complex relating to a top referee.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Dec 16 4.28pm

Originally posted by chateauferret

Edited by chateauferret (29 Dec 2016 4.03pm)

Totally and utterly disagree that Mark somehow makes decisions against us knowing them to be wrong and purposely sets out to ensure that he doesn't apply the laws fairly .This is hogwash of the highest degree.Some need to look at the failings of our own team and not have any sort of persecution complex relating to a top referee.

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 29 Dec 16 4.31pm
Originally posted by Willo I can assure one and all that I am certainly NOT a "Wind up merchant" and only give my honest opinions.People might wholly disagree but this is their prerogative. If indeed I was a WUM then I would be against the 'Tide' on a whole raft of issues on HOL but I think you will find this is not the case.I don't go out to provoke or purposely take an alternative viewpoint, I just express what I think. The reality is controversy and Clattenburg have never been far away. The list is long. Dodgy financial dealings, inappropriate comments to players, poor decision making, (Everton wouldn't let him near them for years) Remember Kuyt Kung fu tackle? There has NEVER been a British referee with the amount of controversy that he has yet you laud him as some sort of paragon of virtue. Dodgy around a pound and dodgy around a whistle. the dignified don't even enter in the game
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Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 29 Dec 16 4.31pm

Originally posted by Willo

I can assure one and all that I am certainly NOT a "Wind up merchant" and only give my honest opinions.People might wholly disagree but this is their prerogative.

If indeed I was a WUM then I would be against the 'Tide' on a whole raft of issues on HOL but I think you will find this is not the case.I don't go out to provoke or purposely take an alternative viewpoint, I just express what I think.

The reality is controversy and Clattenburg have never been far away. The list is long. Dodgy financial dealings, inappropriate comments to players, poor decision making, (Everton wouldn't
let him near them for years) Remember Kuyt Kung fu tackle?

There has NEVER been a British referee with the amount of controversy that he has yet you laud him as some sort of paragon of virtue.

Dodgy around a pound and dodgy around a whistle.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Dec 16 4.46pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch The reality is controversy and Clattenburg have never been far away. The list is long. Dodgy financial dealings, inappropriate comments to players, poor decision making, (Everton wouldn't let him near them for years) Remember Kuyt Kung fu tackle? There has NEVER been a British referee with the amount of controversy that he has yet you laud him as some sort of paragon of virtue. Dodgy around a pound and dodgy around a whistle. He was cleared of the allegations regarding racist comments. As for "Poor decision making", he was awarded 3 major cup finals this year, is the World's top referee and he is lauded by the refereeing fraternities around the world. I stand "Four square" behind my comments on this thread and I really believe that it is high time that I leave it at this as I have nothing more to add. I shall allow the "Anti-Clattenburg" fraternity to continue their tirade. Edited by Willo (29 Dec 2016 4.47pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Dec 16 4.46pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

The reality is controversy and Clattenburg have never been far away. The list is long. Dodgy financial dealings, inappropriate comments to players, poor decision making, (Everton wouldn't
let him near them for years) Remember Kuyt Kung fu tackle?

There has NEVER been a British referee with the amount of controversy that he has yet you laud him as some sort of paragon of virtue.

Dodgy around a pound and dodgy around a whistle.

He was cleared of the allegations regarding racist comments.

As for "Poor decision making", he was awarded 3 major cup finals this year, is the World's top referee and he is lauded by the refereeing fraternities around the world.

I stand "Four square" behind my comments on this thread and I really believe that it is high time that I leave it at this as I have nothing more to add.

I shall allow the "Anti-Clattenburg" fraternity to continue their tirade.

Edited by Willo (29 Dec 2016 4.47pm)

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