sure it was the cake shop an not the pub with Den:-)

We had a not bad firm, got a bit of recognition at one point i recall, always had a massive mob for charlton, qpr and luton, and always better than them,did like qprs tight firm thou from ladbroke grove, they were game but little numbers, had a go at man utd once or twice, we werent in same league as the top boys thou, millwall and west ham,,,they were the daddys and everyone knew it, but our biggest feat was running the north bank when they were top boys in london,not many can say that, probably none, maybe one or two, but not when they were top boys!

yeah kermit, always forget the mob we took to brighton, thats sad in itself, forgetting them, just shows how long ago it was, apart from play off of course!

I can remember being squashed in the pens that day, Spurs under-estimated how many we would bring. Palace fans started climbing the fences to get over into the empty pen next to our fans and the OB finally opened it and that filled up rapidly. Can remember the fighting up and down the Seven sisters road after the game, pockets of Spurs hid in the back allys and ambushed a few of our mob and probably one of the biggest fights i ever see took place that day, what was probably only a minute seemed like ages as punches were thrown. Selhurst was aneast target because all our lads were in different mobs and split up. Outside was different though. Biggest mob inside Selhurst was against Pompey when they came on the pitch and were quickly put in their place by our lot in the mainstand, kicked off all over Thrornton Heath after too. Pompey had the whole of the Holmesdale that day.

The only time ive ever been nicked was las last game of season against newcastle in centre of pitch after game, was about 35 years ago, i was 16 and my mate was fighting with an older geordie who was coming on top, i went to help, my mate ran off, and me and the toon guy were at it, thou he was about 25,just a few slaps either way, then we both get nicked, put in seperate vans, taken to norbury nick, i got processed, an taken down to the cell,ob chucked me in! Got a shock to see my toon mate, with two of his pals sitting on the floor! He said,,,thats him! Luckily for me, his mate, obviouslythe leader of the trio, said,,hes only a kid! Dont worry mate . sit down,we aint gona hurt ya,,,and they didnt

We were alright on our day, although there wasn't always unity between the different firms, meant we were never as strong as we could have been.

Boys from Sth Norwood never got on with Addington, nor the boys from the Pond, South Croydon also tended to stand alone. Pity really cos when we did come together we showed heart against Weed being the obvious.

Many memorable times, like when about 30 of us ran 100s of Liverpool where the police station now is at Norwood Junction (was a carpark then). Also many an ambush alone the path that runs along the side the track at Norwood Junction. Running man city when away fans were in the corner of the Holmesdale. Ambushing the weed at East Croydon. Getting a load of Brighton Scum of the South badges printed up, that made the back pages of the Evening Standard.

Anyone remember, Silverback? The grey-haired police sergeant who thought Norwood Junction was his manor? Orrible b******.

Happy days.