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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 01 Jan 17 7.41pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Loz83

Hennessy
Tomkins Dann damo ward
McCarther cabaye
Punch cyl wilf
Benteke


So, it's basically the same team as Allardyce's but with a different center back as right back (Tomkins instead of Kelly) and the same right footed Ward as left back.
Another center back at right back position is going to be just as awful as Kelly is.

Heck, not even Ward is good enough to play there anymore. They should just make Lee a right back and hope he crosses more than he screws up.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 01 Jan 17 11.19pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Yes I accept Ward has been playing out of position.

That said maybe a couple of seasons ago, I was questioning his ability and commenting about his lack of a burst of pace and I was pilloried on here !

He can still do a job for us but I wasn't one who was lauding him when others were on here and I think some were suggesting him for England !

We all have our own opinions about players and I was in the minority !


But why join in a thread slagging the bloke off and go on about an opinion expressed two years ago ?


Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (01 Jan 2017 11.20pm)

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 01 Jan 17 11.29pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by SwordFish

.... Can all p1ss off in this window for a free transfer for all I care!! I would rather play youth players

The players in front of Kelly & Ward were worse today. Sort of agree re Townsend. What use is a winger who wants to cut in and swing the ball towards the goalkeeper 90% of the time?

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 02 Jan 17 12.06am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

The players in front of Kelly & Ward were worse today. Sort of agree re Townsend. What use is a winger who wants to cut in and swing the ball towards the goalkeeper 90% of the time?

Well, that is what you get from Townsend - unless he's losing the ball long before that. They (AP & co) should have known when the contract was signed...

 

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View rossboss29's Profile rossboss29 Flag Portsmouth 02 Jan 17 1.16am Send a Private Message to rossboss29 Add rossboss29 as a friend

Kelly is not anywhere near premier league standard, and how he ever got an england cap is beyond me. Mutch is not good enough, puncheon has lost a yard of pace. For me Ward is good enough as a right back, but not as a left back.

 

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View Geoff Thomas's Profile Geoff Thomas Flag Tonbridge - 02 Jan 17 7.57am Send a Private Message to Geoff Thomas Add Geoff Thomas as a friend

Townsend is capable of being a decent player, just got to sort himself out.
The other 2 need replacing I agree but they are not the only ones.
We have issues all over the place.
A captain is required as nobody in that team is leading us, when we are in need of a kick up the Arse.

GT

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Jan 17 8.04am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Geoff Thomas

Townsend is capable of being a decent player, just got to sort himself out.
The other 2 need replacing I agree but they are not the only ones.
We have issues all over the place.
A captain is required as nobody in that team is leading us, when we are in need of a kick up the Arse.

GT

It wasn't so long ago that many on HOL were lauding Dann's leadership qualities and suggesting he should get an England call-up.

Edited by Willo (02 Jan 2017 8.18am)

 

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View Geoff Thomas's Profile Geoff Thomas Flag Tonbridge - 02 Jan 17 8.15am Send a Private Message to Geoff Thomas Add Geoff Thomas as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

It wasn't so long agao that many on HOL were lauding Dann's leadership qualities and suggesting he should get an England call-up.

True and how wrong they all were! Seems to have had an adverse affect on his game as well.

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Ward gets a raw deal from some on here. He's no left back, and the defence looks so unbalanced when he has to play there. And although Zaha's defensive work has improved, Ward hasn't had the best of assistance in that area over the last couple of years, when playing on the right.

The squad is littered with poor signings....Fryers, Mutch, Campbell being the prime examples. Kelly in my opinion has been a good squad member, but he's not worth a regular starting place if we had Ward available at right back.

Pardew moved on some strong personalities when he sold Jedi ( in particular ) and Murray. And then failed to adequately replace them.

I applauded the signings of Townsend and Benteke but I've been disappointed with both of them. Townsend I would sell asap - he doesn't want to play on the left and he certainly doesn't merit selection ahead of Zaha on the right. Why did we sign him in those circumstances ?

Benteke looks a threat in the air ( and should have scored yesterday ), but his hold up play is poor and his work rate questionable. He doesn't strike me as someone you would want ' in the trenches ' alongside you.

On a positive note, Sam Allardyce will not see things through the same rose tinted view that Pardew had. He will get to the root of problems and sort them out.

 


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View collier row eagle's Profile collier row eagle Flag romford essex via another galaxy 02 Jan 17 10.18am Send a Private Message to collier row eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add collier row eagle as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Ward gets a raw deal from some on here. He's no left back, and the defence looks so unbalanced when he has to play there. And although Zaha's defensive work has improved, Ward hasn't had the best of assistance in that area over the last couple of years, when playing on the right.

The squad is littered with poor signings....Fryers, Mutch, Campbell being the prime examples. Kelly in my opinion has been a good squad member, but he's not worth a regular starting place if we had Ward available at right back.

Pardew moved on some strong personalities when he sold Jedi ( in particular ) and Murray. And then failed to adequately replace them.

I applauded the signings of Townsend and Benteke but I've been disappointed with both of them. Townsend I would sell asap - he doesn't want to play on the left and he certainly doesn't merit selection ahead of Zaha on the right. Why did we sign him in those circumstances ?

Benteke looks a threat in the air ( and should have scored yesterday ), but his hold up play is poor and his work rate questionable. He doesn't strike me as someone you would want ' in the trenches ' alongside you.

On a positive note, Sam Allardyce will not see things through the same rose tinted view that Pardew had. He will get to the root of problems and sort them out.

Excellent post nello get into em BFS. Ffs

Edited by collier row eagle (02 Jan 2017 10.19am)

 

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View hugobear's Profile hugobear Flag London 02 Jan 17 10.22am Send a Private Message to hugobear Add hugobear as a friend

Fell apart when Jedinak went. The heart of the team was torn out. He was heartbroken. His wife was livid. They'd spent a fortune doing up their house. He told us he wanted to stay for good. That's how AP repaid his loyalty

 

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View aashman12's Profile aashman12 Flag 02 Jan 17 10.23am Send a Private Message to aashman12 Add aashman12 as a friend

Originally posted by cardiff eagle

Joel Ward is being played out of position to be fair to him....

Ward played his best stuff for us at lb.

 

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