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View NickinOX's Profile NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 04 Jan 17 1.40am Send a Private Message to NickinOX Add NickinOX as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Southampton managed it. Brighton too.

Don't Southampton have a billionaire owner? Not sure about Brighton's finances, but I doubt it is easy to manage.

 


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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 04 Jan 17 1.51am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by NickinOX

Don't Southampton have a billionaire owner? Not sure about Brighton's finances, but I doubt it is easy to manage.

We also to have billionaire owners.

 


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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 04 Jan 17 5.54am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

It's actually the opposite. I think that we could benefit from going down and getting the infrastructure of the club up to scratch for a return to the top flight for years to come.


We are struggling to improve the infrastructure with PL money and an injection of cash from the US investors. We will have zero chance of doing so in the Championship. The history of the last 20 years does not suggest that we would achieve an early return. Relegation would be an unmitigated disaster for the club for a decade or more. The lower leagues are littered with 'bigger' clubs than us who thought they could 'bounce back'.

 


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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Southampton managed it. Brighton too.

Southampton improved their structure decades ago and have a scouting network that enables them to find players, sell at a profit and find as good, if not better, replacements. Add to that they are a relatively attractive club that middle ranking players want to join. We have none of this.

Brighton's free spending chairman decided to improve their infrastructure before the team and it looks to have been a sound policy. When they're promoted he will spend on players like a drunken sailor on shore leave because he can; no need to salt money away for ground and training ground improvements there.

 


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Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

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To get out of this mess we need fighters and we dont have them. Our old guard who bought into the Pulis way have had 4 years Prem money now and have lost their desire and add to them 3 or 4 big earners who dont have the stomach for a scrap and you have an irreversible situation

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 04 Jan 17 7.50am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by slubglurge

To get out of this mess we need fighters and we dont have them. Our old guard who bought into the Pulis way have had 4 years Prem money now and have lost their desire and add to them 3 or 4 big earners who dont have the stomach for a scrap and you have an irreversible situation


I'd go with 'difficult to reverse', but not impossible.

 


Bexley Dave

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 04 Jan 17 8.07am

Originally posted by Jimenez

We also to have billionaire owners.

People love to overlook this fact.

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 04 Jan 17 8.11am

Originally posted by bexleydave

Southampton improved their structure decades ago and have a scouting network that enables them to find players, sell at a profit and find as good, if not better, replacements. Add to that they are a relatively attractive club that middle ranking players want to join. We have none of this.

Brighton's free spending chairman decided to improve their infrastructure before the team and it looks to have been a sound policy. When they're promoted he will spend on players like a drunken sailor on shore leave because he can; no need to salt money away for ground and training ground improvements there.

Okay then, if we go down then we can spend our richer than Brighton's owners, owners billions to sort our infrastructure out, then come back up. Either way it won't be a disaster as we now have billionaire owners. Billions of pounds can avert any distaster.

 


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Leeds
Forest
Wednesday
Charlton
Blackpool
Barnsley
Swindon Town
Oldham
Coventry
Bradford
Pompey


Clubs who could have regrouped. Now admittedly some are / were small clubs but Wednesday, Leeds, Coventry and even Clowntown went down after a very successful period and are in dire straights.

I enjoy the championship but we should be in no rush to go there

 


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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 04 Jan 17 8.17am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Okay then, if we go down then we can spend our richer than Brighton's owners, owners billions to sort our infrastructure out, then come back up. Either way it won't be a disaster as we now have billionaire owners. Billions of pounds can avert any distaster.

I'm afraid not.

Bloom is an altruistic owner, whose prime motivation is not making a profit. Harris and Blitzer are investors, looking for a return on their cash in a reasonable timescale. They won't keep piling dollars into a money pit.

 


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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 04 Jan 17 8.18am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Okay then, if we go down then we can spend our richer than Brighton's owners, owners billions to sort our infrastructure out, then come back up. Either way it won't be a disaster as we now have billionaire owners. Billions of pounds can avert any distaster.

But now FFP makes it harder for rich owners to spend, also I am not sure what appetite they will have to pour good money after bad.

 


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I think a lot will depend on Allardyce's desire to get us out of this mess. Sunderland were worse than us when he took over last season. Remember how embarrassing some of their performances were, including against us.

If Big Sam is willing and able to roll his sleeves up and stamp some authority then I think we'll be ok, but if he's come in with a hangover from the England debacle then we could be in trouble.

I think we might see one our two faces come in both in the team and on the training ground that are well known to our new boss. He surely must recognise we need some strength of character right now and sometimes it's good to get who you know, even if it may not be glamorous or exciting.

A couple of weeks on the training ground, some time for key players to recover/return from injury and a couple of new signings and then let's see what happens at West Ham.

 

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