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NickinOX Sailing country. 06 Jan 17 9.19pm
Originally posted by mattteo Are you a retard or something? Read the bloody thread, I gave you like 150 names You made a claim that you knew those 150+ players to be unhappy and available. I asked how you knew this. You never answered, but you did get abusive. You've been asked this more than once, and not just by me, and have got abusive each time. Are you going to answer the question, or are you going to keep being abusive? If it is the former, I would be genuinely interested to know. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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NickinOX

Sailing country. 06 Jan 17 9.19pm

Originally posted by mattteo

Are you a retard or something? Read the bloody thread, I gave you like 150 names

You made a claim that you knew those 150+ players to be unhappy and available. I asked how you knew this. You never answered, but you did get abusive. You've been asked this more than once, and not just by me, and have got abusive each time.

Are you going to answer the question, or are you going to keep being abusive? If it is the former, I would be genuinely interested to know.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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bexleydave Barnehurst 07 Jan 17 6.17am
Originally posted by mattteo Could reach a deal for �12-15m straight away, no loan. IS WORTH IT! Don't know if for Palace, as Zaha is here, but definitely will be one the best in the PL in 1-2-3 years There's no quotes or source in the French article and just sounds like wishful thinking to me. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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Barnehurst 07 Jan 17 6.17am

Originally posted by mattteo

Could reach a deal for �12-15m straight away, no loan. IS WORTH IT!

Don't know if for Palace, as Zaha is here, but definitely will be one the best in the PL in 1-2-3 years

There's no quotes or source in the French article and just sounds like wishful thinking to me.

Bexley Dave

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mattteo 07 Jan 17 7.36am
Originally posted by bexleydave There's no quotes or source in the French article and just sounds like wishful thinking to me. No, the French are actually talking about a much smaller sum: like 7 million pounds (10 million euros) AND only if he confirms while on loan. But that Utd want to recoup like 20 million That's why I said that a deal could be reached in the middle, for 12-15 million. If you offer 12 without loan, they'd sell because they're sure of the deal. If you wanted him on loan and they're not sure that you'll buy him in the summer, they'll ask for 15 at least
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07 Jan 17 7.36am

Originally posted by bexleydave

There's no quotes or source in the French article and just sounds like wishful thinking to me.

No, the French are actually talking about a much smaller sum: like 7 million pounds (10 million euros) AND only if he confirms while on loan. But that Utd want to recoup like 20 million

That's why I said that a deal could be reached in the middle, for 12-15 million.
If you offer 12 without loan, they'd sell because they're sure of the deal. If you wanted him on loan and they're not sure that you'll buy him in the summer, they'll ask for 15 at least

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mattteo 07 Jan 17 7.43am
Originally posted by NickinOX You made a claim that you knew those 150+ players to be unhappy and available. I asked how you knew this. You never answered, but you did get abusive. You've been asked this more than once, and not just by me, and have got abusive each time. Are you going to answer the question, or are you going to keep being abusive? If it is the former, I would be genuinely interested to know. Man, let's just end this. It's not helping either of us. I'm being a dick to you because it's not a serious question. At least, I don't get what you're trying to ask me. "How are they unhappy?" They're unhappy because they've lost their position as starters and can't progress in their careers anymore. Some might lose the national teams. They'd want to be paid the same amount (which a PL team like Palace can do) AND play as starters. If they are not valued high by their current managers doesn't mean they're poor. The world is full of bad managers. It's actually a business opportunity to get those players for half they'd be worth.
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mattteo

07 Jan 17 7.43am

Originally posted by NickinOX

Are you going to answer the question, or are you going to keep being abusive? If it is the former, I would be genuinely interested to know.

Man, let's just end this. It's not helping either of us. I'm being a dick to you because it's not a serious question. At least, I don't get what you're trying to ask me. "How are they unhappy?" They're unhappy because they've lost their position as starters and can't progress in their careers anymore. Some might lose the national teams.
They'd want to be paid the same amount (which a PL team like Palace can do) AND play as starters.

If they are not valued high by their current managers doesn't mean they're poor. The world is full of bad managers. It's actually a business opportunity to get those players for half they'd be worth.

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cpfc1976 Reading 07 Jan 17 8.50am
Originally posted by mattteo Man, let's just end this. It's not helping either of us. I'm being a dick to you because it's not a serious question. At least, I don't get what you're trying to ask me. "How are they unhappy?" They're unhappy because they've lost their position as starters and can't progress in their careers anymore. Some might lose the national teams. They'd want to be paid the same amount (which a PL team like Palace can do) AND play as starters. If they are not valued high by their current managers doesn't mean they're poor. The world is full of bad managers. It's actually a business opportunity to get those players for half they'd be worth. Am sure Depay is massive talent and has massive potential but above all else we want players right now that are well up for a relegation scrap over the next four months. As we have found from some of our previous marque signings, the most expensive players don't always seem to possess that quality. A very expensive gamble. Edited by cpfc1976 (07 Jan 2017 8.51am) Edited by cpfc1976 (07 Jan 2017 8.52am)
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Reading 07 Jan 17 8.50am

Originally posted by mattteo

If they are not valued high by their current managers doesn't mean they're poor. The world is full of bad managers. It's actually a business opportunity to get those players for half they'd be worth.

Am sure Depay is massive talent and has massive potential but above all else we want players right now that are well up for a relegation scrap over the next four months. As we have found from some of our previous marque signings, the most expensive players don't always seem to possess that quality. A very expensive gamble.

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Southampton_Eagle At the after party 07 Jan 17 9.18am
Can't see Depay wanting to play in the Championship.
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Can't see Depay wanting to play in the Championship.

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Loz83 Crawley 07 Jan 17 9.34am
Even 20mil is a snip, he'll be worth more than double that in 2 years!
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Crawley 07 Jan 17 9.34am

Even 20mil is a snip, he'll be worth more than double that in 2 years!

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 07 Jan 17 9.42am
if hes available for 15-20m theb lets have a dabble at him. obviiusly a extremely talented lad and at his age i dont think we could lose money if he stays a few years. him & zaha together be mouth watering �Football isn�t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.� Ian Holloway
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if hes available for 15-20m theb lets have a dabble at him.

obviiusly a extremely talented lad and at his age i dont think we could lose money if he stays a few years. him & zaha together be mouth watering

�Football isn�t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.� Ian Holloway

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NickinOX Sailing country. 07 Jan 17 12.59pm
Originally posted by mattteo Man, let's just end this. It's not helping either of us. I'm being a dick to you because it's not a serious question. At least, I don't get what you're trying to ask me. "How are they unhappy?" They're unhappy because they've lost their position as starters and can't progress in their careers anymore. Some might lose the national teams. They'd want to be paid the same amount (which a PL team like Palace can do) AND play as starters. If they are not valued high by their current managers doesn't mean they're poor. The world is full of bad managers. It's actually a business opportunity to get those players for half they'd be worth. Thank you. So, what you are saying is that you think they are unhappy because of their situation, and because of that they might be available for the sums you claimed. That's different from knowing they are unhappy and available for under 10m, but that is ok. We got there in the end. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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Sailing country. 07 Jan 17 12.59pm

Originally posted by mattteo

If they are not valued high by their current managers doesn't mean they're poor. The world is full of bad managers. It's actually a business opportunity to get those players for half they'd be worth.

Thank you.

So, what you are saying is that you think they are unhappy because of their situation, and because of that they might be available for the sums you claimed. That's different from knowing they are unhappy and available for under 10m, but that is ok. We got there in the end.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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Salford eagle 07 Jan 17 1.16pm
Maybe if he's available on loan. Otherwise there is no way he'd sign for us or for us to commit that sort of money (transfer fee + wages) in our current position. These sort of suggestions are not realistic. We'll pay 10m tops (for an individual) in this transfer window and that will probably include wages. Edited by Salford eagle (07 Jan 2017 1.17pm) California sunlight - sweet Calcutta rain - Honolulu starbright - the song remains the same
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07 Jan 17 1.16pm

Maybe if he's available on loan. Otherwise there is no way he'd sign for us or for us to commit that sort of money (transfer fee + wages) in our current position.

These sort of suggestions are not realistic. We'll pay 10m tops (for an individual) in this transfer window and that will probably include wages.

Edited by Salford eagle (07 Jan 2017 1.17pm)

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DutchEagleJohan Vlissingen, Netherlands 09 Jan 17 4.04pm
I have seen the guy coming up here in Holland and dare say you massively overrate him! Not what we need both in terms of mentality and football skills. He might just be better then Townsend but very comparable. Full of himself, dribbling too much, not a team player: Stay away!! You wanna gamble Dutch, go and try get Vincent Janssen from Spurs. I know he has been poor so far but he has the drive and mentality that suits us and also might well be interested as after yesterday his chances in the Spurs team will be limited. Originally posted by mattteo I mean WTF!!! Why aren't clubs buying? Everton hasn't made a bid, Nice pulled out cause they don't have money to buy from the Premier League. It would take another Premier League club to pay the fee. From the 14 outside of the big 6 I expect one to rapidly make a bid! He'd be a bargain for even 20 million. Easily one of the best right footed attacking players I've seen. Will develop incredibly in the next years. It's just baffling to me how the people at United can't see this. It's like Chicharito, Welbeck and di Maria all over again. Depay was just so good in the Netherlands that no other player had ever had his goals and assists per minutes played percentage. And he was just 18-19 when he established himself at PSV. And his first games at United were very good. Has everyone forgotten that? The trashing of FC Brugge 7-1 and the qualification to the Champions League? He didn't do so well in the Premier League, I admit. But he didn't do horribly either. It was hard for him in the first year, he had to adjust. People are saying he's spoiled and doesn't run enough, but I've seen him play and I thought he presses a lot, recovers, runs fast. He's still a starter in the national team and the dutch see him as the best prospect for the future 10 years. I'd buy him in a jiffy if I had 20 million. And I hear they might even sell him for 10. GET THIS GUY!!!!!!!!
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I have seen the guy coming up here in Holland and dare say you massively overrate him! Not what we need both in terms of mentality and football skills. He might just be better then Townsend but very comparable. Full of himself, dribbling too much, not a team player: Stay away!! You wanna gamble Dutch, go and try get Vincent Janssen from Spurs. I know he has been poor so far but he has the drive and mentality that suits us and also might well be interested as after yesterday his chances in the Spurs team will be limited.

Originally posted by mattteo

I mean WTF!!! Why aren't clubs buying? Everton hasn't made a bid, Nice pulled out cause they don't have money to buy from the Premier League. It would take another Premier League club to pay the fee. From the 14 outside of the big 6 I expect one to rapidly make a bid!

He'd be a bargain for even 20 million. Easily one of the best right footed attacking players I've seen. Will develop incredibly in the next years. It's just baffling to me how the people at United can't see this. It's like Chicharito, Welbeck and di Maria all over again.

Depay was just so good in the Netherlands that no other player had ever had his goals and assists per minutes played percentage. And he was just 18-19 when he established himself at PSV. And his first games at United were very good. Has everyone forgotten that? The trashing of FC Brugge 7-1 and the qualification to the Champions League?

He didn't do so well in the Premier League, I admit. But he didn't do horribly either. It was hard for him in the first year, he had to adjust. People are saying he's spoiled and doesn't run enough, but I've seen him play and I thought he presses a lot, recovers, runs fast. He's still a starter in the national team and the dutch see him as the best prospect for the future 10 years.

I'd buy him in a jiffy if I had 20 million. And I hear they might even sell him for 10.

GET THIS GUY!!!!!!!!

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mattteo 09 Jan 17 8.32pm
Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan I have seen the guy coming up here in Holland and dare say you massively overrate him! Not what we need both in terms of mentality and football skills. He might just be better then Townsend but very comparable. Full of himself, dribbling too much, not a team player: Stay away!! You wanna gamble Dutch, go and try get Vincent Janssen from Spurs. I know he has been poor so far but he has the drive and mentality that suits us and also might well be interested as after yesterday his chances in the Spurs team will be limited. You're not Dutch and if you are you're talking nonsense. Must be an Ajax fan, because Depay did at PSV something bloody impossible for a 19 year old: 39 goals and 18 assists (57 in total) in 5.800 minutes. That's a goal or assist per every 100 minutes, for a really long time of playing. He dribbles too much? Well, these are all contributions to actual goals besides the dribbling Edited by mattteo (09 Jan 2017 8.33pm)
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09 Jan 17 8.32pm

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

You're not Dutch and if you are you're talking nonsense. Must be an Ajax fan, because Depay did at PSV something bloody impossible for a 19 year old: 39 goals and 18 assists (57 in total) in 5.800 minutes.
That's a goal or assist per every 100 minutes, for a really long time of playing.

He dribbles too much? Well, these are all contributions to actual goals besides the dribbling

Edited by mattteo (09 Jan 2017 8.33pm)

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