Well the intelligence services of the US, believe that the Russian security services were involved in the hack and provision of material to wiki leaks of the Clinton Emails, which was timed to affect the election. It also seems that Russian hackers were trying to penetrate the security around electronic voting machines.

Bear in mind, that potentially if an American was involved in that hack, its an act of treason by US standards.

Of course that doesn't mean that Trump was involved or conspired, that would need to be proven. Similarly for anyone in his campaign.

I don't see why people think this should be about Trump or Clinton, its about far more important issues.

Things like this must transcend partisan political divides. They're more important than whether your democrat / republican / nutbar fringe fridge door.

Well America has allegedly been involved in influencing elections abroad, particularly South America for years.
The battle has moved to to the internet now and the West must be prepared.
This is not the first conspiracy surrounding a President and it is rather strange that you are prepared to accept this one so readily when a while ago you suggested that JFK was probably killed by Lee Harvey Oswald alone and that conspiracy theories were more about psychology than reality.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (11 Jan 2017 12.22pm)

It doesn't surprise that the voters screw up and vote for someone they don't want not at all.

But that's their problem.

If Russia has found some way to directly influence the American voter i.e. canvassing in some way but it does seem far-fetched why would the American voter be influenced by the Russkies would have thought the opposite.

Its a bit more complicated than that. There is concern that hackers working in Russia, for the Russian government, stole documents from Hilary Clinton at the State Department, and handed these over via an agent to wikileaks.

Interestingly, the FBI have been investigating some of these allegations for a while, and did apply for Homeland FISA warrents on members of the Trump presidential campaign, several of whom do have substantial links to Russian Business interests.

So its not really about Russia 'potentially influencing the election, but subverting it'

Yes, the US has undermined elections around the world and I don't accept that as acceptable either.

I don't see it as a conspiracy theory because a) the FBI is pursuing a number of leads, Clinton was hacked and material was distributed, and a number of people both republican, democrat and federal agencies seem to believe that there is a case to answer.

I'm saying the FBI and Homeland Security should be allowed to continue their investigation - and a senate committee should oversee associated issues. I don't know what the extent of the hacking was, who was involved, the degree of relationship between Russia and Trumps campaign and so on.

Joe Public just votes for who he wants surely there is no Russian influence there?

Trump or Clinton which candidate do I want there is no suggestion of interference with the count.

So they voted Trump and wish they had not and have cold feet it's quite scary the power he will wield.

Quite see what you post - no suspicion of the FBI in your mind?

Of course the Russians are up to no good we know that its what we are up against hacking their way into our defences and causing any type of problem they can an election is just another opportunity.

Well the intelligence services of the US, believe that the Russian security services were involved in the hack and provision of material to wiki leaks of the Clinton Emails, which was timed to affect the election. It also seems that Russian hackers were trying to penetrate the security around electronic voting machines.

Bear in mind, that potentially if an American was involved in that hack, its an act of treason by US standards.

Of course that doesn't mean that Trump was involved or conspired, that would need to be proven. Similarly for anyone in his campaign.

I don't see why people think this should be about Trump or Clinton, its about far more important issues.

Things like this must transcend partisan political divides. They're more important than whether your democrat / republican / nutbar fringe fridge door.