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View Flightsequence's Profile Flightsequence Flag 15 Jan 17 8.33am Send a Private Message to Flightsequence Add Flightsequence as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

We had that decent second half of our first season, under Pulis, who then did all that work on fitness and had instilled a bit of steel into the team. The benefits of that were still there when Pardew joined and we had a decent second half to our season again.

We started our third season well, but it should have been obvious that we needed to strengthen the squad in the January window, which we failed to do. The FA cup clouded the fact that, in 2016 we were simply awful and Pardew should have been sacked last May. We failed to replace Bolasie or get proper back-up for Souare in the summer and we seemed to let fitness take a back seat whilst we were cruising around the US, in contrast to a Pulis-style boot camp.

How, in light of our results in 2016, Parish was persuaded to let Pardew start experimenting with a more 'expansive' style, when we couldn't get the basic right, God only knows. At the latest, Pardew should have gone after the Swansea game, and that brings us to where we are now, a demoralised unfit team, who've got into the losing habit.

We've been in a tailspin for over a year and it's going to take more than a month to pull us out of it. Judge Allardyce after this window and give him 'til the end of February to have a real impact on the team and consolidate the new signings (hopefully it will be plural). If the patient isn't on the mend by then we may have to accept that the decline is terminal, but I haven't given up yet.

Hit nail on head! Excellent post.

 

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Originally posted by palacer

Call in the priest.


Andy was shocking for us, he can't help.

 

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View Selhurstboys's Profile Selhurstboys Flag Basel 15 Jan 17 9.13am Send a Private Message to Selhurstboys Add Selhurstboys as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

We had that decent second half of our first season, under Pulis, who then did all that work on fitness and had instilled a bit of steel into the team. The benefits of that were still there when Pardew joined and we had a decent second half to our season again.

We started our third season well, but it should have been obvious that we needed to strengthen the squad in the January window, which we failed to do. The FA cup clouded the fact that, in 2016 we were simply awful and Pardew should have been sacked last May. We failed to replace Bolasie or get proper back-up for Souare in the summer and we seemed to let fitness take a back seat whilst we were cruising around the US, in contrast to a Pulis-style boot camp.

How, in light of our results in 2016, Parish was persuaded to let Pardew start experimenting with a more 'expansive' style, when we couldn't get the basic right, God only knows. At the latest, Pardew should have gone after the Swansea game, and that brings us to where we are now, a demoralised unfit team, who've got into the losing habit.

We've been in a tailspin for over a year and it's going to take more than a month to pull us out of it. Judge Allardyce after this window and give him 'til the end of February to have a real impact on the team and consolidate the new signings (hopefully it will be plural). If the patient isn't on the mend by then we may have to accept that the decline is terminal, but I haven't given up yet.

Agree. Watching Chelsea give us a master-class in defending at our gafff in December showed us how it should be done and that's what you need in this division no matter who you are.

On epoint on BFS though, I think he's getting the psychology wrong. He gave the players their excuse for the Swansea game before kick-off with all that moaning about having to play two games within 48 hours and in his post-match interview yesterday he's already going on about how 'we might have to suffer this period unil the end of January beginning of February' implying we probably won't get anything without Zaha and Sako. Sako hardly played for us ffs. Is he really the right man to keep us up?

 

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Originally posted by bexleydave


We've been in a tailspin for over a year and it's going to take more than a month to pull us out of it. Judge Allardyce after this window and give him 'til the end of February to have a real impact on the team and consolidate the new signings (hopefully it will be plural). If the patient isn't on the mend by then we may have to accept that the decline is terminal, but I haven't given up yet.

I totally agree with this. He's only been in a couple of weeks with the worst time of year on his first day.

I must admit though he could be a little more positive at games - seems a bit sulky reclining in his seat. If I was him Id have a lot to prove following the England fiasco. Look at Conte and Klopp style ... it seems to work

Even Mou being a bit more light-hearted and see the change in results

Edited by TrickyBoy (15 Jan 2017 9.21am)

 

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Originally posted by Selhurstboys


in his post-match interview yesterday he's already going on about how 'we might have to suffer this period unil the end of January beginning of February' implying we probably won't get anything without Zaha

It was fairly obvious yesterday how much we missed Zaha so all Allardyce is guilty of is speaking the truth when it's already obvious to everyone

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 15 Jan 17 9.23am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Selhurstboys

Agree. Watching Chelsea give us a master-class in defending at our gafff in December showed us how it should be done and that's what you need in this division no matter who you are.

On epoint on BFS though, I think he's getting the psychology wrong. He gave the players their excuse for the Swansea game before kick-off with all that moaning about having to play two games within 48 hours and in his post-match interview yesterday he's already going on about how 'we might have to suffer this period unil the end of January beginning of February' implying we probably won't get anything without Zaha and Sako. Sako hardly played for us ffs. Is he really the right man to keep us up?

I agree totally that SA shouldn't pre-write their excuses for them. I get the impression that he rates Sako more than Pardew did.

 


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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 15 Jan 17 9.26am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by TrickyBoy

I totally agree with this. He's only been in a couple of weeks with the worst time of year on his first day.

I must admit though he could be a little more positive at games - seems a bit sulky reclining in his seat. If I was him Id have a lot to prove following the England fiasco. Look at Conte and Klopp style ... it seems to work

Even Mou being a bit more light-hearted and see the change in results


I don't know why he's adopting that rather grumpy-looking pose from the start. A bit more animation from him, from the off, wouldn't go amiss

 


Bexley Dave

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Originally posted by bexleydave

We had that decent second half of our first season, under Pulis, who then did all that work on fitness and had instilled a bit of steel into the team. The benefits of that were still there when Pardew joined and we had a decent second half to our season again.

We started our third season well, but it should have been obvious that we needed to strengthen the squad in the January window, which we failed to do. The FA cup clouded the fact that, in 2016 we were simply awful and Pardew should have been sacked last May. We failed to replace Bolasie or get proper back-up for Souare in the summer and we seemed to let fitness take a back seat whilst we were cruising around the US, in contrast to a Pulis-style boot camp.

How, in light of our results in 2016, Parish was persuaded to let Pardew start experimenting with a more 'expansive' style, when we couldn't get the basic right, God only knows. At the latest, Pardew should have gone after the Swansea game, and that brings us to where we are now, a demoralised unfit team, who've got into the losing habit.

We've been in a tailspin for over a year and it's going to take more than a month to pull us out of it. Judge Allardyce after this window and give him 'til the end of February to have a real impact on the team and consolidate the new signings (hopefully it will be plural). If the patient isn't on the mend by then we may have to accept that the decline is terminal, but I haven't given up yet.

Great post and one I wholeheartedly agree with. I think we just need that 1st win under Sam and it'll do wonders for the confidence, I'm not sure where that win is coming from at the moment but maybe we can turn Everton over next week. Im still confident we'll stay up.

 

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