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View 1066eagle's Profile 1066eagle Flag hastings 17 Jan 17 7.48pm Send a Private Message to 1066eagle Add 1066eagle as a friend

we had a little more disabled area , but we were told put tv studios , so lost the disabled area .. cannot win

 

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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 17 Jan 17 8.24pm Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Originally posted by 1066eagle

we had a little more disabled area , but we were told put tv studios , so lost the disabled area .. cannot win

"Little disabled area"!
Blatant migitism. Out of order mate.

 

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View paperhat's Profile paperhat Flag croydon 18 Jan 17 12.38pm Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

Originally posted by n wales eagles

Alterations are to be made this season with seats to be turned to face away from the pitch .

and thats just for the front of Block B in the Holmesdale, For the HF massive.

 


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View dannyh's Profile dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 18 Jan 17 12.50pm Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Would one answer not be to make the Arthur lower tier standing like the grounds in Germany, have the wheel chair car park at ground level, entrances at each end of the ground, plus if you make it standing you dont lose as much ground capacity

 


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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 18 Jan 17 12.52pm

This is just like the supermarket, create loads of spaces that are for a small minority that are rarely ever used.
How many spaces do we need? Surely We should be able to cater for need rather than a quota set. Why create say space for 50 disabled fans if only 20 want to use it? Create the section for those that need it and if others request it then surely seats can be removed to accomadte as and when.
Yes we need to look after and provide for disabled fans they are stuck at the back of the Arthur at the moment. Personally would take a few front rows of seats in the Mainstand and use those. Easy access through the side gate, Vechile access and a good view for the fans too.

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 18 Jan 17 1.10pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by bubble wrap

This is just like the supermarket, create loads of spaces that are for a small minority that are rarely ever used.
How many spaces do we need? Surely We should be able to cater for need rather than a quota set. Why create say space for 50 disabled fans if only 20 want to use it? Create the section for those that need it and if others request it then surely seats can be removed to accomadte as and when.
Yes we need to look after and provide for disabled fans they are stuck at the back of the Arthur at the moment. Personally would take a few front rows of seats in the Mainstand and use those. Easy access through the side gate, Vechile access and a good view for the fans too.

This is a delicate one and it's difficult to say anything anti without sounding unfeeling or worse, but would we really ever need 100 wheelchair spaces? I tend towards the view that we should be required to cater for the demand rather than a quota. I'm willing to be told I've got this wrong. To echo dannyh's post, under current legislation we can't introduce safe-standing unilaterally, but could we create an area with something like rail-seats that are locked in the seated position unless required by a wheelchair user?

 


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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 18 Jan 17 1.14pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

This is a delicate one and it's difficult to say anything anti without sounding unfeeling or worse, but would we really ever need 100 wheelchair spaces? I tend towards the view that we should be required to cater for the demand rather than a quota. I'm willing to be told I've got this wrong. To echo dannyh's post, under current legislation we can't introduce safe-standing unilaterally, but could we create an area with something like rail-seats that are locked in the seated position unless required by a wheelchair user?

Should be an area that's easy to access etc, where seats can be added / removed as necessary. this would mitigate any drop in capacity

 


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View Michaelawt85's Profile Michaelawt85 Flag Bexley 18 Jan 17 1.16pm Send a Private Message to Michaelawt85 Add Michaelawt85 as a friend

More accessible seating areas would be good. Posted on here about this before. Bringing my mum to a game next month. Her mobility is poor but she's not in a wheelchair or using a mobility scooter. Managed to ticket swap so I can go three rows from the back of the aw with her on an aisle seat. Getting her from my car and into her seat isn't going to be the easiest thing to do as I can't get very near. Not sure they need that many spaces though but realise as others have said it's about meeting quotas.

 


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View sxp55's Profile sxp55 Flag South Norwood 18 Jan 17 1.17pm Send a Private Message to sxp55 Add sxp55 as a friend

Originally posted by Casual

We won't be losing 3000 seats , a lot of the disabled bring their own.

this is funny. well done

 


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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 18 Jan 17 4.14pm Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

All Premiership clubs face being fined (or possibly worse) for not achieving improved seating, access and all other facilities and arrangements for disabled fans.
I am sure the current facilities do not suit many disabled Palace or opposition fans for many differing reasons.
It was first agreed in 1998, further commitments were then made in 2015 to meet them by Aug 2017.
When you consider the billions of tv money earned by premiership clubs verses the paltry amounts required to adequately facilitate disabled supporters it is nothing in comparison.
I appreciate disabled supporters require more space and additional facilities but surely they deserve parity with their able bodied kindred!

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 18 Jan 17 4.27pm

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

More accessible seating areas would be good. Posted on here about this before. Bringing my mum to a game next month. Her mobility is poor but she's not in a wheelchair or using a mobility scooter. Managed to ticket swap so I can go three rows from the back of the aw with her on an aisle seat. Getting her from my car and into her seat isn't going to be the easiest thing to do as I can't get very near. Not sure they need that many spaces though but realise as others have said it's about meeting quotas.

Well said, not everyone who needs 'easy access / disabled' spaces is going to be in a wheelchair. People who need carers for example, shouldn't have to be buying two tickets and cramped up in the stands, and people with poor vision, might be better catered this way (esp if its nearer the pitch).

Then thinking about it, getting up the Holmedale road is brutal enough, god knows how you'd manage that in a wheel chair or on crutches.

 


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View saveloy's Profile saveloy Flag carmarthen 18 Jan 17 4.29pm Send a Private Message to saveloy Add saveloy as a friend

Which game was it when someone scored and quite a few wheelchair supporters leapt out of there seats?

 

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