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I thought there was a formula based on capacity. Selhurst presently has a total capacity of a little over 26,000 but it is actually less given the "sterile" area in the AW between the away section and home.

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There is a 100 page report:

[Link]

It sets out the criteria for new stadia and stands, but says that these should also be applied to existing stadia. It would appear that we'd need to provide nearly 170 spaces and are also to offer a variety of viewing choices, so they can't all be in one place/stand. Then there's ingress/egress, access to facilities, emergency escape routes, etc. I can't see how a ground like ours will ever be able to comply with it.

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This is impossible in the present Main Stand. It is way too old, has ingress/egress from ground level which would mean the installation of lifts which can't be used in a fire emergency. They could try to use ramps on either end of the stand but that takes up a lot of space due to grading. Possible in AW and maybe the Holmesdale.

Reading this reminds me of a one size fitting all approaches that were attempted in the US 20-25 years ago and failed miserably.

As public transport is my field, I paid particular attention to that section, entitled outside the stadium. It is completely unrealistic for many grounds, including Selhurst, which are located in primarily residential areas. Unless there has been a tremendous upgrade at both Norwood Junction and Selhurst stations (Thornton Heath is too far away by these standards) and the Whitehorse Lane bus (used to be the #68 ) has become 100% accessible, both things beyond the control of the club, there can never be compliance. Another is the recommendation that "modified coaches should be be provided drop off points no more than 50 meters from any stand entrance. This would be a safety nightmare on both Holmesdale and Park Roads unless these coaches arrived at least one hour before the match. Since the away team coach arrives at Selhurst nearly 90 minutes before the match, having additional coaches in the club ("Executive" ) car park would be an absolute nightmare.

You are absolutely right, Bex, Selhurst can't comply without major redevelopment. As it is, the Main Stand operates with a waiver due to its age and presence of wood. By focusing on numbers rather than actual infrastructure as well as not taking geography into account, it offers false hope for people who should be able to enjoy the game without regard to physical condition. I can just imagine what the folks down at Bournemouth are thinking. I believe a more effective approach is to take each ground and devising methods to allow greater access based on the actual location and conditions of that ground in consultation with the local authority, who should have planning expertise in this area that a football club does not.

Thank you for posting the document.

Edited by kenbarr (03 Feb 2017 1.42am)

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