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View paperhat's Profile paperhat Flag croydon 23 Jan 17 6.01pm Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

Originally posted by NickinOX

Here we go again (and not just a couple of times either):

Matteo: "Even I know all the players in the Premier League and the Championship and what foot they kick the ball with."

Sure you do.

Matteo: "I do actually. I can name you over 100 players that would cost less than 10 million and would improve the Crystal Palace side this winter."

There is more.

Matteo: "But the truth is that there are close to 200 players that could improve a Premier League squad AT THIS MOMENT and they are A BARGAIN"

This is getting better.

Matteo: "All of the above either don't play as starters anymore or play as starters in teams that have problems and are willing to sell for a fee less that what they would deserve."

They're only alternative facts, right?

Matteo: "It's a list of unhappy players, who COULD be tempted into coming and from clubs who might actually sell them cheapER than the modern, average prices in England."

So, you lied about the first claim (since amended in a more recent post, but it's still a lie), and were wrong on the second and others. e.g. You had Depay as a player who would cost less that 10m, then later said 10-15m before he was later sold for 16m+.

So, you are clearly making stuff up as you go along. But you abuse people and call them liars if they ask you to prove your claims. Pathetic!

Edited by NickinOX (23 Jan 2017 5.31pm)

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 23 Jan 17 6.08pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by NickinOX

I put it in bold so that even you can find it. You were asked how you knew this. You responded with abuse.

You clearly cannot read, or are being deliberately obtuse. I suspect the latter.


Edited by NickinOX (23 Jan 2017 5.35pm)


Yeah, and I had emphasized the words "COULD" and "cheapER". You ask me how can I know that they're unhappy. You clearly don't understand what you're asking. How do you want me to answer? That I spoke to all of the personally? That I'm their psychologist? I never said I talked to them and I know for a fact. It is my assumption, as you could assume that staying in the sun too long causes your face to turn red.
They're unhappy because they're not playing as much as they used to and that makes all football players willing to consider moving. Not "unhappy" as in depressed, having bar fights.
It's the club's job to find out if they're unhappy enough to be persuaded into joining Palace. Though, considering the salaries in the Premier League are the biggest in the world, it shouldn't take much to prove their unhappiness

 

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View Hudsoneagle's Profile Hudsoneagle Flag 23 Jan 17 6.17pm Send a Private Message to Hudsoneagle Add Hudsoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo


Yeah, and I had emphasized the words "COULD" and "cheapER". You ask me how can I know that they're unhappy. You clearly don't understand what you're asking. How do you want me to answer? That I spoke to all of the personally? That I'm their psychologist? I never said I talked to them and I know for a fact. It is my assumption, as you could assume that staying in the sun too long causes your face to turn red.
They're unhappy because they're not playing as much as they used to and that makes all football players willing to consider moving. Not "unhappy" as in depressed, having bar fights.
It's the club's job to find out if they're unhappy enough to be persuaded into joining Palace. Though, considering the salaries in the Premier League are the biggest in the world, it shouldn't take much to prove their unhappiness

Matteo if you don't know for sure that they are unhappy then why do you make such a statement? That's just asking for trouble on here, especially when your usual response to people who disagree with you is to accept you know what you're talking about or ignore your posts...so far you haven't managed to get a lot right have you?

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 23 Jan 17 6.19pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by paperhat

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Ummmm.....really?

My claim was that I knew more than 100 players who cost less than 10 million. Validated
And that there are almost 200 players that could improve the Palace squad. Even if you don't know them, the world is a big place, so they exist. So again, validated claim

Then he kept on asking me childish, like who are these guys and why did I pick them and why would they come Palace.

I answered as best I could, giving my assumption that they're unhappy because they're not playing or that they're undervalued by their clubs (which, with a lot of research, you'd find out it's true for the players I named)

Now, many times, including on page 3 of this thread, this guy kept telling me "You claimed you knew for a fact that over 200 players were unhappy and were available for under 10m" QUOTED word for word.
I never said I knew for a fact and he hasn't proved that because it's not possible to prove it. I believe that they're unhappy. It is my assumption. I never said I know FOR A FACT, and no one can. No one could have gone and talked to all this players and know for a fact.

The entire discussion is just a waste of time and if you think I got owned because he quoted me saying something different than what he lied that I said...fine. I don't plan on wasting my time anymore in silly chats.

If someone really knows football, tactics, players, I'm happy to engage in conversation.

Otherwise, just stick to your level

 

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View soulboy's Profile soulboy Flag Lewisham 23 Jan 17 6.22pm Send a Private Message to soulboy Add soulboy as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo


He is quality, but not THAT MUCH quality. He could develop into a good wingback, but they paid for him the same fee they paid for Townsend. And Schlupp could never do what Townsend does. He was pretty much brought to replace Townsend
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The first thing you've said that I can agree with!! And let's continue to hope that Schlupp doesn't try to emulate Andros's abysmal contribution, otherwise back to Leicester he goes!!


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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 23 Jan 17 6.25pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

Matteo if you don't know for sure that they are unhappy then why do you make such a statement? That's just asking for trouble on here, especially when your usual response to people who disagree with you is to accept you know what you're talking about or ignore your posts...so far you haven't managed to get a lot right have you?

What didn't I get right?

See my response above. I never said I knew "for a fact" they're unhappy, as I've been falsely accused. How would you have me prove they're unhappy? It's my assumption. All players are unhappy when they don't get playing time.

 

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View Hudsoneagle's Profile Hudsoneagle Flag 23 Jan 17 6.36pm Send a Private Message to Hudsoneagle Add Hudsoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

What didn't I get right?

See my response above. I never said I knew "for a fact" they're unhappy, as I've been falsely accused. How would you have me prove they're unhappy? It's my assumption. All players are unhappy when they don't get playing time.

Why even go to the trouble of finding the names of 100+ players and then say that you assume them to be unhappy? A fan making that assumption renders the point being made totally worthless. I would also suggest that assuming a player to be unhappy simply because they are being played less often is truly naive.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 23 Jan 17 6.40pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

Why even go to the trouble of finding the names of 100+ players and then say that you assume them to be unhappy? A fan making that assumption renders the point being made totally worthless. I would also suggest that assuming a player to be unhappy simply because they are being played less often is truly naive.

OK. I'll put it like this: 100 players who would be happiER on Premier League wages.
Notice the happiness change?

 

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View Icepick Tony's Profile Icepick Tony Flag Chester 23 Jan 17 6.48pm Send a Private Message to Icepick Tony Add Icepick Tony as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Ummmm.....really?

My claim was that I knew more than 100 players who cost less than 10 million. Validated
And that there are almost 200 players that could improve the Palace squad. Even if you don't know them, the world is a big place, so they exist. So again, validated claim

Then he kept on asking me childish, like who are these guys and why did I pick them and why would they come Palace.

I answered as best I could, giving my assumption that they're unhappy because they're not playing or that they're undervalued by their clubs (which, with a lot of research, you'd find out it's true for the players I named)

Now, many times, including on page 3 of this thread, this guy kept telling me "You claimed you knew for a fact that over 200 players were unhappy and were available for under 10m" QUOTED word for word.
I never said I knew for a fact and he hasn't proved that because it's not possible to prove it. I believe that they're unhappy. It is my assumption. I never said I know FOR A FACT, and no one can. No one could have gone and talked to all this players and know for a fact.

The entire discussion is just a waste of time and if you think I got owned because he quoted me saying something different than what he lied that I said...fine. I don't plan on wasting my time anymore in silly chats.

If someone really knows football, tactics, players, I'm happy to engage in conversation.

Otherwise, just stick to your level

What you mean is, 'If someone agrees with what I've said then please respond to my posts, if, however, you don't then please don't reply because I'm still trying to find my way out of this hole I've dug myself'

No-one has lied, you posted various points that you got called on. Since then you've either tried refuting you have said them or tried to play the 'They've been taken out of context' card.
What you have is opinions, no greater or worse football knowledge than anyone else. The quicker you grasp that concept the quicker you'll engage in amicable chats.

But please, carry on being better than us all if you like. It is quite amusing.

 


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View Hudsoneagle's Profile Hudsoneagle Flag 23 Jan 17 6.51pm Send a Private Message to Hudsoneagle Add Hudsoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

OK. I'll put it like this: 100 players who would be happiER on Premier League wages.
Notice the happiness change?

Matteo even I would assume there are 100 players out there that would prefer prem wages who could do a job in this league...hell there are probably 500+ players that fit that category.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 23 Jan 17 6.54pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Icepick Tony

What you mean is, 'If someone agrees with what I've said then please respond to my posts, if, however, you don't then please don't reply because I'm still trying to find my way out of this hole I've dug myself'


No, what I mean is if you want to talk football, not "how do you know they're unhappy?"

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 23 Jan 17 6.57pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

Matteo even I would assume there are 100 players out there that would prefer prem wages who could do a job in this league...hell there are probably 500+ players that fit that category.


I don't know about 500, but yes, I agree that there are many. That's what I've tried to do, name them. I actually did. Based on what they previously did, only proven players, who are not that appreciated by their current managers (doesn't mean they're right)
Isn't that what we all do, suggest?

 

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