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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 24 Jan 17 11.26am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

Did my speed awareness course earlier this month. It was good to be reminded of the importance of some of the (safe driving) things I do automatically. While on the course I noted the quantity of drivers attending and thought about revenue being generated. Before and since the course I have noted how many people I know who have been caught, and that there seem to be two groups of drivers - those who have done the course (and fear for their licences) and those who drive with greater urgency. One problem I am working on is that lots of people are aware that it is easier to stop if you are driving slower. Without the fear factor I cause by positive driving, I find that other motorists take liberties because my slow and careful driving encourages them to take the liberty of stealing my space - confident that I will stop for them if needed.

 

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View doi209's Profile doi209 Flag Fighting for the weak and innocent... 24 Jan 17 5.30pm Send a Private Message to doi209 Add doi209 as a friend

Originally posted by gambler

How do they run a car if they have no income?

I live off my wife. She has a great pension income. I just sold some investments to buy the car. We are retired, kids gone etc...More time on hands, more fun needed.

 

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View kingdowieonthewall's Profile kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 24 Jan 17 6.48pm Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

From experience, early hours of morning(6am or so) is a very dodgy time.
A few morons really boot it, 50-70mph on 30mph roads.
I sometimes leave pretty early depending on the job and this time is always dodgy.
It can be stereotype van drivers or people in small cars
but the quieter roads bring out some shockers.

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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View Michaelawt85's Profile Michaelawt85 Flag Bexley 24 Jan 17 7.46pm Send a Private Message to Michaelawt85 Add Michaelawt85 as a friend

Originally posted by doi209

I live off my wife. She has a great pension income. I just sold some investments to buy the car. We are retired, kids gone etc...More time on hands, more fun needed.

Kept man ..

Edited by Michaelawt85 (24 Jan 2017 7.46pm)

 


When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 24 Jan 17 9.14pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

30 years as a cab driver not so much as spec on my license,have driven a lorry for 8 years now...got 3 points and attending a course next month....
On another note,I had to someone to Lincolnshire years ago quiet late at night.( a fare).on the way back on the A1m I was really really belting get it,looked in mirror..oh dear pulled me up asked how fast I was going,I said about 90 (knowing darn well I was going a lot faster),he laughed and said try nearer to 130.
Thought s*** gonna be in big trouble here.so he asked me where I had been and all that crap, and then said I can see you are a cab driver and it's really early morning and no one about.
So next time keep an eye in your mirror the next lot might not be so nice and let me be on my way.....result.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 24 Jan 17 9.28pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by OknotOK

Got caught speeding last year - my first (caught) offence since I got my license in 2003. And went on one of those speed awareness courses.

It was really eye-opening and I have been much more conscious of my speed ever since.

I think it's right that people should be facing increased penalties - the consequences of excessive speeding are severe. In fact the only thing I don't agree with is that there is an absolute cap to the 150% of weekly wages fine. Why should a footballer who earns £350k a week, only face a maximum fine of £2,500?

And penalties for mobile use when driving should be much stricter as well.

Although they are very frustrating I support the 20mph zones in residential school areas. It's fully supported by scientific research that shows it does noticeably reduce serious injury and death. So why not?

Hold on - that 150% of weekly wages can't be right. 150% of £350k is £525k.

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 24 Jan 17 10.11pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Fingers crossed, I've never had points for speeding. I'm not say I've never done it. But there are factors to take in. If it's a 20mph zone, 40mph is stupid. What's so hard about keeping close to the speed limit? Unless you are on a long motorway journey, the time saved is minimal.

There are a lot of serial speeders about though, and No1 on the list is mothers taking the brats to school. Late. As usual. Worst drivers on the road. Get up earlier you lazy.......!

Another set is the 40mph drivers. Country roads are national speed limit. The towns they go through are 30mph. Or 20mph if there is a school, or reduced road. But those b...ards do 40mph all the way!

And the youngsters, who think they have a fast car. No! They don't go fast, they just sound loud!

P.S. Got a ban years back for racing my Barracuda down the spine road when they were building Thamesmead

Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (24 Jan 2017 10.13pm)

 


Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 25 Jan 17 7.56am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

The Speed Awareness Courses are for people who only marginally exceed the speed limits (say 35mph in a 30mph limit) and not for real speedsters.

spot on. This speed awareness course is not offered to maniacs, but just to people who have been marginally careless.
I went on a residents speed monitoring course a couple of years ago. This is where police train and provide equipment for community groups to monitor vehicle speeds. Which is effectively getting the public to do the police's work.
If a vehicle is caught twice exceeding the speed limit during monitoring sessions,...they are sent a letter.
If they are caught again speeding,...they are sent a very stern letter indeed.
When I realised this was a 'softly softly' approach, and that speed monitors were not going to be issued with batons, tazers and firearms, I withdrew my interest.

And the limits for prosecution are: speed limit+10%+10mp. So, for example, in a 40mph area, a motorist is allowed up to 54mph before prosecution.

And I do feel slightly contrite towards my mother, who prided herself on a clean licence. In her pensionable years she got a fixed penalty for doing 38mph in a 30 zone, 3 points and a fine.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (25 Jan 2017 8.02am)

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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View OknotOK's Profile OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 25 Jan 17 11.07am Send a Private Message to OknotOK Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add OknotOK as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

30 years as a cab driver not so much as spec on my license,have driven a lorry for 8 years now...got 3 points and attending a course next month....
On another note,I had to someone to Lincolnshire years ago quiet late at night.( a fare).on the way back on the A1m I was really really belting get it,looked in mirror..oh dear pulled me up asked how fast I was going,I said about 90 (knowing darn well I was going a lot faster),he laughed and said try nearer to 130.
Thought s*** gonna be in big trouble here.so he asked me where I had been and all that crap, and then said I can see you are a cab driver and it's really early morning and no one about.
So next time keep an eye in your mirror the next lot might not be so nice and let me be on my way.....result.

I'm not being funny but that is really out of order. 130mph isn't safe, no matter where you are or how quiet the road is. You should have been done.

I don't know you personally and you are probably a top bloke, but that is just wrong. 130mph is meant to be enough to get you disqualified from driving, let alone some poxy fine. Although I accept given your career, that would constitute a potentially very harsh punishment.

Edited by OknotOK (25 Jan 2017 11.08am)

 


"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

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View EasyMeat's Profile EasyMeat Flag Surrey 25 Jan 17 7.29pm Send a Private Message to EasyMeat Add EasyMeat as a friend

7 years ago I stepped out of my front door was walking up the driveway when I was hit by a car. The police reckoned he was doing between 60-80 in a 30. A 19 year old local trouble maker who does stock car racing thought he could take a curve without braking.
It was touch and go for a week but thankfully due to the skill of others I survived.
Due to circumstance he was done for driving without due care and attention. Got a five year ban, had to retake his test and a £200 fine.
I still have trouble coping with the after affects now but at least I'm here.

When your in a car you can only be responsible for yourself, its not your fault if a kiddie steps out in the road, but if your speeding, using your phone or under the influence of anything and the worse happens you deserve to go to prison for a long long time.
Is there ever an excuse for speeding?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 17 7.40pm

Originally posted by OknotOK

I'm not being funny but that is really out of order. 130mph isn't safe, no matter where you are or how quiet the road is. You should have been done.

I don't know you personally and you are probably a top bloke, but that is just wrong. 130mph is meant to be enough to get you disqualified from driving, let alone some poxy fine. Although I accept given your career, that would constitute a potentially very harsh punishment.

Edited by OknotOK (25 Jan 2017 11.08am)

Those pesky foreign germans have the right idea on their autobahns. No speed limit, just drive at a speed that is safe for the amount of traffic and conditions - Also driving whilst listening to gabba is banned in Finland as it was found to cause listeners to drive too fast.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 17 7.44pm

Originally posted by elgrande

30 years as a cab driver

I always suspected you have a large hippocampus.


 

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