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Originally posted by bexleydave

Comments on BBS, from some attending yesterday's E400 meeting, suggest that starting the work is years away and that there are "funding issues":

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Edited by bexleydave (21 Nov 2018 11.09am)

quelle surprise

 

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Originally posted by bexleydave

Comments on BBS, from some attending yesterday's E400 meeting, suggest that starting the work is years away and that there are "funding issues":

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Edited by bexleydave (21 Nov 2018 11.09am)

Theyíll be selling 5 year season tickets to help the funding. This raises a couple of points.

1. Whatís happened to the ringfenced £100 million?

2. Selling off long term season tickets limits transfers in the future and something that 2010 criticised because itís a slippery slope. Revenue will no doubt increase (although thereís still a loss transfer funds doing this), but it wonít be that great in the championship. There might be fewer losses but there will still be losses.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 Nov 18 11.46am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Theyíll be selling 5 year season tickets to help the funding. This raises a couple of points.

1. Whatís happened to the ringfenced £100 million?

2. Selling off long term season tickets limits transfers in the future and something that 2010 criticised because itís a slippery slope. Revenue will no doubt increase (although thereís still a loss transfer funds doing this), but it wonít be that great in the championship. There might be fewer losses but there will still be losses.

Well I hope none of this is true otherwise what exactly is the point of the American investors?

As for a 5 year season ticket well how many people can afford it and is it worth it. If we were a big six club you could practically guarantee PL football. At the very least fans should be pushing for a relegation clause. If it's good enough for the players it should be good enough for the club. Go down and you get a refund, I wont be holding my breath though.

Edited by Badger11 (21 Nov 2018 11.47am)

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 21 Nov 18 11.46am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Theyíll be selling 5 year season tickets to help the funding. This raises a couple of points.

1. Whatís happened to the ringfenced £100 million?

2. Selling off long term season tickets limits transfers in the future and something that 2010 criticised because itís a slippery slope. Revenue will no doubt increase (although thereís still a loss transfer funds doing this), but it wonít be that great in the championship. There might be fewer losses but there will still be losses.

The £100m was never actually put into the company so perhaps it was just promised by the shareholders and as to what has happened to it - who knows.

I hope that Parish isn't stupid enough to top up his building fund with advance payments for season tickets as everyone who knows anything about corporate finance knows that you should never pay for major fixed assets with working capital as that's a quick way to the knackers yard

 

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Originally posted by Badger11

Well I hope none of this is true otherwise what exactly is the point of the American investors?

As for a 5 year season ticket well how many people can afford it and is it worth it. If we were a big six club you could practically guarantee PL football. At the very least fans should be pushing for a relegation clause. If it's good enough for the players it should be good enough for the club. Go down and you get a refund, I wont be holding my breath though.

Edited by Badger11 (21 Nov 2018 11.47am)

Are you saying you would only go if we were in the Premiership.......?

 

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Originally posted by EsussexEagle

Are you saying you would only go if we were in the Premiership.......?

No I am saying why should I pay PL prices if we end up in the championship.

I supported Palace over 50 years so seeing them in the top flight is not the norm for most people of my age.

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

No I am saying why should I pay PL prices if we end up in the championship.

I supported Palace over 50 years so seeing them in the top flight is not the norm for most people of my age.

I guess that's the old argument of more games for your money in the Championship then. Still, know what you mean about not being used to it, give me a wet Saturday in Carlisle than the Emirates any day.

 

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Originally posted by EsussexEagle

I guess that's the old argument of more games for your money in the Championship then. Still, know what you mean about not being used to it, give me a wet Saturday in Carlisle than the Emirates any day.

Fair point. You don't like the Emirates? That's a shame I hear its the best library in the world.

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

Well I hope none of this is true otherwise what exactly is the point of the American investors?

As for a 5 year season ticket well how many people can afford it and is it worth it. If we were a big six club you could practically guarantee PL football. At the very least fans should be pushing for a relegation clause. If it's good enough for the players it should be good enough for the club. Go down and you get a refund, I wont be holding my breath though.

Edited by Badger11 (21 Nov 2018 11.47am)

Well said Badger. I agree 100% and I think a lot of fans would definitely think very carefully before committing to a long term season ticket. Now if we were currently Championship and the offer was based on the price you pay with the prospect of promotion, then it might be a different matter, so a suitable discount might entice whilst we are PL.

As others have said as well though, it is a slippery slope taking money up front as it doesn't help with future dealings and FFP.

I sincerely hope that the funding of this new stand is not going to be reliant on assistance from the fans, because that is not how I read this proposal when it was announced.

 

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Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Well said Badger. I agree 100% and I think a lot of fans would definitely think very carefully before committing to a long term season ticket. Now if we were currently Championship and the offer was based on the price you pay with the prospect of promotion, then it might be a different matter, so a suitable discount might entice whilst we are PL.

As others have said as well though, it is a slippery slope taking money up front as it doesn't help with future dealings and FFP.

I sincerely hope that the funding of this new stand is not going to be reliant on assistance from the fans, because that is not how I read this proposal when it was announced.

Itís not assistance from the fans is it? Theyíll be selling something they can deliver as long as we donít go out of business. I donít like the sound of it mind you.

 


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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

The £100m was never actually put into the company so perhaps it was just promised by the shareholders and as to what has happened to it - who knows.

I hope that Parish isn't stupid enough to top up his building fund with advance payments for season tickets as everyone who knows anything about corporate finance knows that you should never pay for major fixed assets with working capital as that's a quick way to the knackers yard

I thought the £100m was what it cost to buy their way into the club?

 


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Originally posted by TheExpatEagle

I thought the £100m was what it cost to buy their way into the club?

Smoke and Mirrors!

 


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