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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 07 May 19 5.33pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardos barber

Irrelevant. Different local authority.

Croydon Council have told us we have to do it. So we have to do it.

Its not irrellevant at all. Spurs are within a London Borough, so are we. Spurs have almost doubled the size of their stadium, we want a new stand, Spurs have done nothing to improve congestion/traffic in the area on match days, we are being told we have to, Spurs have poor public transport links to their ground, we are served within easy walking distance of 3 train stations, have a bus service that stops right outside the ground (from both Croydon and from Crystal Palace) and have a decent amount of parking in the area (and thats not taking Sainsbury car park into account!). Of course its not irrelevant. Any good lawyer would hold up this comparison in court as unfair treatment from Croydon Council, forcing us to jump through hoops and pay for improved infrastructure that does not require improvement.

 

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View kenbarr's Profile kenbarr Flag Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 07 May 19 6.04pm Send a Private Message to kenbarr Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add kenbarr as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

What a complete load of self important clap trap. How do you know what has been discussed and has gone on behind the scenes? Please explain how you know that the Mayor, any Mayor has asked for a back hander? And please explain how you know it was refused 'on several occassions'. You are laughable and if I was 'said Mayor' and saw what you'd written I'd be looking to find out who you are and serve some legal papers upon you. We all know it goes on, What YOU do not know is what you claim above.
I've read some tripe on here but this garbage takes the cake!

OK, here we go. Hereís how I know what I know. Iím a freelance writer based in New York and a native New Yorker. I have reported on the continuing Department of Investigation probe into deBlasioís fund raising and pay to play shenanigans. It has been also widely reported in the New York & national media. The approach to Mr. Parish has been extensively sourced by several reporters, including Spectrum NY1 & the New York Times. So, bring on your law suit. Under the New York Times v Sullivan decision (SUPRA 1964) you wonít get in the front door of the court house.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 May 19 6.05pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Its not irrellevant at all. Spurs are within a London Borough, so are we. Spurs have almost doubled the size of their stadium, we want a new stand, Spurs have done nothing to improve congestion/traffic in the area on match days, we are being told we have to, Spurs have poor public transport links to their ground, we are served within easy walking distance of 3 train stations, have a bus service that stops right outside the ground (from both Croydon and from Crystal Palace) and have a decent amount of parking in the area (and thats not taking Sainsbury car park into account!). Of course its not irrelevant. Any good lawyer would hold up this comparison in court as unfair treatment from Croydon Council, forcing us to jump through hoops and pay for improved infrastructure that does not require improvement.

So you want to delay the process and alienate Croydon council for the sake of a few million when it is in the best interests of the club to get things moving as quickly as possible and maintain a good relationship for future developments?

 

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Originally posted by est1905

Its not irrellevant at all. Spurs are within a London Borough, so are we. Spurs have almost doubled the size of their stadium, we want a new stand, Spurs have done nothing to improve congestion/traffic in the area on match days, we are being told we have to, Spurs have poor public transport links to their ground, we are served within easy walking distance of 3 train stations, have a bus service that stops right outside the ground (from both Croydon and from Crystal Palace) and have a decent amount of parking in the area (and thats not taking Sainsbury car park into account!). Of course its not irrelevant. Any good lawyer would hold up this comparison in court as unfair treatment from Croydon Council, forcing us to jump through hoops and pay for improved infrastructure that does not require improvement.


Have you ever been to any of these grounds it sounds like you have not.

Selhurst is awful ground to get to and you can claim about these train stations about but it doesn't mean they are good routes also they may look close of map but when it comes to match day they are really bad.

Spurs transport is not worse then ours they have multi options trains, buses etc is it really good no but it's 40min+ shorter journey which is a lot of time.

We have good parking thats it im not commenting anymore you are in dream world.

 

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View gabby01's Profile gabby01 Flag 07 May 19 9.12pm Send a Private Message to gabby01 Add gabby01 as a friend

I have to disagree - on a normal day - Selhurst and NJ are absolutely fine to deal with. I've never not got on the first train leaving the match (and no I do not leave early)!

At Spurs it took me until 10:50 to get onto the platform at Seven Sisters. I queued for an hour to get into SS.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 08 May 19 9.55am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So you want to delay the process and alienate Croydon council for the sake of a few million when it is in the best interests of the club to get things moving as quickly as possible and maintain a good relationship for future developments?

Launching a legal process against a Council you are trying to get an agreement with, seems a suicide mission.
The delay, legal costs, and destruction of a working relationship is exactly not the way to do things.

Any proposed development is taken on its own merits. You can make reference to similar developments, but each will have its own unique aspects.

All Councils have their own Local Plan, giving specifics of what would be envisaged over the next 10 years. This is influenced, in part, by Government policy. And in the case of certain developments in London Boroughs, needs to be reviewed by The Mayor's office.

The club owners decided to develop Selhurst, in order to swerve protracted legal disputes over other locations. It would be madness to go legal now.

 


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Originally posted by kenbarr

OK, here we go. Hereís how I know what I know. Iím a freelance writer based in New York and a native New Yorker. I have reported on the continuing Department of Investigation probe into deBlasioís fund raising and pay to play shenanigans. It has been also widely reported in the New York & national media. The approach to Mr. Parish has been extensively sourced by several reporters, including Spectrum NY1 & the New York Times. So, bring on your law suit. Under the New York Times v Sullivan decision (SUPRA 1964) you wonít get in the front door of the court house.

Thank you very interesting. As a matter of interest, why was Parish approached?

 

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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Launching a legal process against a Council you are trying to get an agreement with, seems a suicide mission.
The delay, legal costs, and destruction of a working relationship is exactly not the way to do things.

Any proposed development is taken on its own merits. You can make reference to similar developments, but each will have its own unique aspects.

All Councils have their own Local Plan, giving specifics of what would be envisaged over the next 10 years. This is influenced, in part, by Government policy. And in the case of certain developments in London Boroughs, needs to be reviewed by The Mayor's office.

The club owners decided to develop Selhurst, in order to swerve protracted legal disputes over other locations. It would be madness to go legal now.

Exactly. If you want to get stuff done sometimes you just have to play the game and not argue about the rules.
Everybody knows that business is not always above board.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Exactly. If you want to get stuff done sometimes you just have to play the game and not argue about the rules.
Everybody knows that business is not always above board.

Sometimes it's all 'smoke and mirrors'

 


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Originally posted by est1905

Whats that got to do with TRAFFIC congestion. meaning lots of CARS

I drive to midweek games because the train to east Croydon from Norwood juncture is only 4 carriages, and thatís after youíve waited to get through the gate on the left. Itís sh1t.

 


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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 11 May 19 5.43pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


Have you ever been to any of these grounds it sounds like you have not.

Selhurst is awful ground to get to and you can claim about these train stations about but it doesn't mean they are good routes also they may look close of map but when it comes to match day they are really bad.

Spurs transport is not worse then ours they have multi options trains, buses etc is it really good no but it's 40min+ shorter journey which is a lot of time.

We have good parking thats it im not commenting anymore you are in dream world.

These grounds? I only mentioned one. And have I been to the new Spurs stadium? No. Have I been to White Hart Lane? three times in my lifetime to see Palace win once (in the 90s) and lose twice. But I fail to see what your point is except if it is to attempt to see me as an arm chair fan. Doesn't really matter if I am or not anyway, my point is still valid.
Seven Sisters is the only widely used/known train station that services WHL. And thats at least 20 mins walk from the stadium. A 5/10 minute walk from Selhurst is Thrnton Heath, Selhurst AND Norwood Junction stations so I'd question whether YOU have been to 'these' grounds. Oh, and parking? Again I think you need to get there a bit earlier. If you are at the ground by car before 1.30 you will get a parking space in Sainsbury carprak, up by the park or numerous residential roads that allow parking on match day. Arrive with less than an hour and a half before KO and of course you wont get a space.

 

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 11 May 19 5.44pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I drive to midweek games because the train to east Croydon from Norwood juncture is only 4 carriages, and thatís after youíve waited to get through the gate on the left. Itís sh1t.

Its Southern's responsibility to put on bigger trains on match days not CPFC

 

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