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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 11 May 19 5.48pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So you want to delay the process and alienate Croydon council for the sake of a few million when it is in the best interests of the club to get things moving as quickly as possible and maintain a good relationship for future developments?

The council would quickly back down when it started to become common knowledge they were treating a local institution unfairly and squeezing them for money to get things done that they should be funding themselves. The money bought into the area for local as well as bigger businesses on a match day outways any petty traffic issues.
Putting obstacles in the way with the public watching is a vote loser. They know that.

 

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 11 May 19 5.52pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by kenbarr

OK, here we go. Hereís how I know what I know. Iím a freelance writer based in New York and a native New Yorker. I have reported on the continuing Department of Investigation probe into deBlasioís fund raising and pay to play shenanigans. It has been also widely reported in the New York & national media. The approach to Mr. Parish has been extensively sourced by several reporters, including Spectrum NY1 & the New York Times. So, bring on your law suit. Under the New York Times v Sullivan decision (SUPRA 1964) you wonít get in the front door of the court house.

This is still just your word. No offence but you could be making this all up to reinforce your point. Its not as if it hasn't been done before. Often.
Unless you have actual proof that the NYC Mayor tried to bribe Steve Parish I'm afraid anyone would find it difficult to take seriously. Especially as he was never bought to account for any such misdermeanor

 

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View JohnB's Profile JohnB Flag 11 May 19 6.02pm Send a Private Message to JohnB Add JohnB as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

The council would quickly back down when it started to become common knowledge they were treating a local institution unfairly and squeezing them for money to get things done that they should be funding themselves. The money bought into the area for local as well as bigger businesses on a match day outways any petty traffic issues.
Putting obstacles in the way with the public watching is a vote loser. They know that.

If you knew some of the conditions that the council has caved into regarding Westfield then you would back the club to dig it's heels in so it can do this for as little cost possible.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 May 19 7.05am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

This is still just your word. No offence but you could be making this all up to reinforce your point. Its not as if it hasn't been done before. Often.
Unless you have actual proof that the NYC Mayor tried to bribe Steve Parish I'm afraid anyone would find it difficult to take seriously. Especially as he was never bought to account for any such misdermeanor


Why would he make this up? Do you think "underhand" dealings aren't common practice in many countries, including ours? I would like a continuation of the saga and find out why the approach was made.

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag 12 May 19 7.41am Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

These grounds? I only mentioned one. And have I been to the new Spurs stadium? No. Have I been to White Hart Lane? three times in my lifetime to see Palace win once (in the 90s) and lose twice. But I fail to see what your point is except if it is to attempt to see me as an arm chair fan. Doesn't really matter if I am or not anyway, my point is still valid.
Seven Sisters is the only widely used/known train station that services WHL. And thats at least 20 mins walk from the stadium. A 5/10 minute walk from Selhurst is Thrnton Heath, Selhurst AND Norwood Junction stations so I'd question whether YOU have been to 'these' grounds. Oh, and parking? Again I think you need to get there a bit earlier. If you are at the ground by car before 1.30 you will get a parking space in Sainsbury carprak, up by the park or numerous residential roads that allow parking on match day. Arrive with less than an hour and a half before KO and of course you wont get a space.


Bogus and having been to the grounds does make a difference any one can look on a map etc but people that have really experienced it know.

So much false info I went to the first game and the transport was fine none of this 20min walk etc.

You are in dream world again get parking no I even contacted the club about going with grandfather and wanted to know about disabled or allocated parking the club told me no chance you have to arrange it very early even then it's limited.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 May 19 9.35am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


Bogus and having been to the grounds does make a difference any one can look on a map etc but people that have really experienced it know.

So much false info I went to the first game and the transport was fine none of this 20min walk etc.

You are in dream world again get parking no I even contacted the club about going with grandfather and wanted to know about disabled or allocated parking the club told me no chance you have to arrange it very early even then it's limited.

What time in the match did you leave Tottenham stadium?

Which station did you walk to?

How long did that take?

How kind did you have to wait for a train south?

What time did you get on a train?

After Palace matches you can be on a train before 5.15 on Saturdays and before 10.15 after midweek matches that start at 8pm. The trains to London are more regular than your specific train going south, so thatís even more guaranteed, even weíll bef those times.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (12 May 2019 9.38am)

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 May 19 10.56am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


Bogus and having been to the grounds does make a difference any one can look on a map etc but people that have really experienced it know.

So much false info I went to the first game and the transport was fine none of this 20min walk etc.

You are in dream world again get parking no I even contacted the club about going with grandfather and wanted to know about disabled or allocated parking the club told me no chance you have to arrange it very early even then it's limited.

I drive every match and always manage to park about 5minute walk to the ground, you do, of course have to get there a bit early. I usuall arrive between 12.30 and 1 pm

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag 12 May 19 3.39pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

What time in the match did you leave Tottenham stadium?

Which station did you walk to?

How long did that take?

How kind did you have to wait for a train south?

What time did you get on a train?

After Palace matches you can be on a train before 5.15 on Saturdays and before 10.15 after midweek matches that start at 8pm. The trains to London are more regular than your specific train going south, so thatís even more guaranteed, even weíll bef those times.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (12 May 2019 9.38am)


I watched the whole game and jumped on a bus around 10pm which was not even 2 min walk away (I could of left bit earlier but didnt want to thought might as well spend bit of time walking around the new stadium)

bus journey took about 15min to seven sisters which then i jumped on the tube to to euston which was another 15-20min.

I was working in MK that week so staying in hotel there.

the whole journey from the stadium to hotel in mk was about 2hr

 

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 13 May 19 5.56pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


Bogus and having been to the grounds does make a difference any one can look on a map etc but people that have really experienced it know.

So much false info I went to the first game and the transport was fine none of this 20min walk etc.

You are in dream world again get parking no I even contacted the club about going with grandfather and wanted to know about disabled or allocated parking the club told me no chance you have to arrange it very early even then it's limited.

I really dont know what ground you are talking about but its not Selhurst you silly sausage

 

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The problem with getting to Selhurst isn't to do with having 3 stations near by and short waits for trains.

For your average northern they will have to get down to the a London terminus, then find their way into a confusing and busy underground network which gives them flashbacks of the old mining days. On the tube they will have to find their way to London Bridge or Victoria, large overwhelming stations, or worse still, Clapham Junction. On getting this far they then discover that Crystal Palace station is no where near Selhurst Park, and they have to either get a slow suburban train to one of 3 locations or to easy Croydon where you have to double back on yourself to find the destination.

Then there's driving. Go all the way around the M25 til you find the M23, discover it stops in the middle of nowhere and end up crawling along a road that appears to be an endless parade of chicken shops.

 

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 14 May 19 5.33pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

The problem with getting to Selhurst isn't to do with having 3 stations near by and short waits for trains.

For your average northern they will have to get down to the a London terminus, then find their way into a confusing and busy underground network which gives them flashbacks of the old mining days. On the tube they will have to find their way to London Bridge or Victoria, large overwhelming stations, or worse still, Clapham Junction. On getting this far they then discover that Crystal Palace station is no where near Selhurst Park, and they have to either get a slow suburban train to one of 3 locations or to easy Croydon where you have to double back on yourself to find the destination.

Then there's driving. Go all the way around the M25 til you find the M23, discover it stops in the middle of nowhere and end up crawling along a road that appears to be an endless parade of chicken shops.

But none of this is proof Palace is difficult to get to. Only that the idiots didn't do their homework for 5 mins before leaving home and actually do what normal people do on an unknown journey. You know, plan the route? Jeez

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 14 May 19 6.41pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

But none of this is proof Palace is difficult to get to. Only that the idiots didn't do their homework for 5 mins before leaving home and actually do what normal people do on an unknown journey. You know, plan the route? Jeez

I have seen countless Northern Monkeys getting off the train at Crystal Palace on a matchday. That taxi office next to the station must be a little goldmine

The Council Planning Officers are civil servants, and not elected. Thus nicely swerving accountability at the ballot box.

Taking any discrepancies to court, will only incur costs, additional delay (any verdict will doubtless go to appeal, up and up the court system) and be counter-productive.

Palace just have to play hard-ball at the negotiation stage. Palace have done well to get this far. Sweetening the Council is par for the course.

Let's not fck it up, and end up like Coventry did.

 


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