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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 25 Jun 19 1.09pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave


The US investors can only leave if they sell their shares to another investor(s), so there's a possibility of their being replaced by someone potentially more proactve (albeit we don't know a lot about the detail of their motivations). It's possible to contruct a convincing argument that a complete change of ownership may benefit the club, if they were motivated and funded to move the club forward, as Parish gives the impression of being happy to tread water. It's difficult to imagine any investor being happy to put in substancial sums whilst sitting quietly at the back, with Parish in the driving seat.

You need to consider that investors are only interested in their money, not the club. Parish whilst being an investor is also a fan which is different. Treading water isnít a bad place to be, a number of clubs have been purchased by foreign owners, who promised investment etc, but it never materialised and have dropped through the leagues.
Apart from being in the Premier league, I canít see why a foreign investor would plough a lot of money into us. We donít have a great history, playing in a poor run down stadium which is difficult to get to and improve.

 

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 25 Jun 19 1.37pm Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

The Yankee Doodles have now realised the team is consistently scraping its arse on the drop zone. They are uncomfortable with the risk of losing all the riches of Premiership football and there's nothing else to sustain their interest. $hit hole Park development will take forever and clearly, they are not in it for the long-term. However, without a decent stadium it will probably be difficult to sell on their investment.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Jun 19 3.49pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Clearly nothing going to happen to the stadium anytime soon. May as well consign this thread to fantasy talk.

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 26 Jun 19 2.28am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Exactly this and please refer to my message signature

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Clearly nothing going to happen to the stadium anytime soon. May as well consign this thread to fantasy talk.

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 26 Jun 19 4.55am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Clearly nothing going to happen to the stadium anytime soon. May as well consign this thread to fantasy talk.


I'd tend to agree.

 


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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag 26 Jun 19 6.31pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Should of used all that money they wasted on the planning and pr stunts to just blow the place up and then claim insurance on it.

place is a s**t hole and being realistic needs knocking down and rebuilding if they want to stay on that site.

 

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View Oldeagle3's Profile Oldeagle3 Flag 30 Jun 19 7.55pm Send a Private Message to Oldeagle3 Add Oldeagle3 as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

You need to consider that investors are only interested in their money, not the club. Parish whilst being an investor is also a fan which is different. Treading water isnít a bad place to be, a number of clubs have been purchased by foreign owners, who promised investment etc, but it never materialised and have dropped through the leagues.
Apart from being in the Premier league, I canít see why a foreign investor would plough a lot of money into us. We donít have a great history, playing in a poor run down stadium which is difficult to get to and improve.

I would appreciate someone talking me through the rationale of spending £100m on developing the stadium whilst increasing the capacity by <10k.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 01 Jul 19 3.52pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Oldeagle3

I would appreciate someone talking me through the rationale of spending £100m on developing the stadium whilst increasing the capacity by <10k.

It's more than 10k and how much do you think a new main stand costs?
It also houses all the clubs offices, leisure facilities, changing rooms, etc so it is more than overdue.

The current facilities are embarrassing.

I would say that more effort could be made to fit more seats in, given the potential limits in developing the other stands. Why have a curve?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (01 Jul 2019 3.53pm)

 

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View dorking's Profile dorking Flag 01 Jul 19 4.02pm Send a Private Message to dorking Add dorking as a friend

The curved shape minimises the impact on the Wooderson Close Houses at one end (just getting rid of the 6 houses we need to with a curved design is proving a major headache), and on Sainsbury's car park at the other end (again, land we do not own).

The other benefit of the curved shape is that the largest number of seats are over the halfway line where premium prices can be commanded, compared to the corner flag ends, where the depth of rows is less

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 01 Jul 19 4.25pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by dorking

The curved shape minimises the impact on the Wooderson Close Houses at one end (just getting rid of the 6 houses we need to with a curved design is proving a major headache), and on Sainsbury's car park at the other end (again, land we do not own).

The other benefit of the curved shape is that the largest number of seats are over the halfway line where premium prices can be commanded, compared to the corner flag ends, where the depth of rows is less

I don't understand.

How would filling in the area either side of the curve affect anything?

The height of the stand would remain exactly the same.

I assumed that the curvature of the outer design made for a curved seating area and the better view in the middle as a bi product, but surely the seating area infrastructure does not have to mirror the outer design?

 

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View dorking's Profile dorking Flag 01 Jul 19 4.54pm Send a Private Message to dorking Add dorking as a friend

The plans are still online on the Croydon Council website, so you can see exactly what goes where on every level of the stand.

Incredibly, the height wasn't an issue. Two of the biggest sticking points holding things up are the removal of the Wooderson Close houses and doing a deal with Sainsburys - in both cases CPFC does not own the land it needs to build even this design with tapered ends.

If Palace had gone for 70+ rows across the whole length of the stand, then it would have been an even bigger job to get the land that we need, because the footprint of the structure would have been colossal

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Jul 19 5.30pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by dorking

The plans are still online on the Croydon Council website, so you can see exactly what goes where on every level of the stand.

Incredibly, the height wasn't an issue. Two of the biggest sticking points holding things up are the removal of the Wooderson Close houses and doing a deal with Sainsburys - in both cases CPFC does not own the land it needs to build even this design with tapered ends.

If Palace had gone for 70+ rows across the whole length of the stand, then it would have been an even bigger job to get the land that we need, because the footprint of the structure would have been colossal

Perhaps they will include it on FIFA 20.

 


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