Especially if their fall-out is greater.

There seems so much blame for the players and far less for Allardyce. Imho, it was clear to see where the problem was from the start and it was all down to Allardyce's choices.

The most glaring mistake was with Puncheon and McCarthur. Simply swapping them would have gone a fair way to helping. Punch was clueless, lacked any confidence, weak in the challenge and had zero positional disciple. His ball rention was alarmingly low (two shockers on the first 5mins set the tone).
Ward and Zaha needed a player inside them to create the triangles up the wing that they so desperately needed but Punch and the manager didn't see it.
And in spite of such a woeful performance, Punch gets to stay on the pitch and we watched Jimmy Mac get taken off. So many boos at that decision but I guess we all saw it very differently to our knowledgable manager.

Another clanger was bringing on Ledley. Aside from the goal, Sunderland were no great shakes but they were seemingly able to wander through central midfield. Surely, once Cabaye had to go off, dropping McArthur into his natural position and bringing on Townsend would have kept a more similar balance to the initial set-up that Allardyce had chosen? Ledley's penchant for playing two yards inside and ahead of left-back has me aghast but hey, what do any of us know? We aren't getting paid millions so our understanding of the game is clearly zero.

So then we go a second goal down. At this point, surely the alarm bells are ringing and swapping a centre-back for Townsend, dropping McArthur into inside right and bringing Townsend on is required? 1. To give us more attacking threat and 2. To shore up our absent midfield?
But no Big Sam stands there, doesn't waver, doesn't consult his coaching staff and just watches on as the disaster unfolds.

I am upset by everything yesterday but can only hope that the mistakes by so many, are learnt from and we never see such a debacle again.

Spirit of 1974

Just had the courage to watch the highlights. Even if I'm charitable and just question Hennessey for the first goal, it has to be said, it's the most important one. Seen fouls given, but if he punches that and stands strong it should of been dealt with.
How did Larsson stay on the pitch, incredibly weak reffing not in our favour once again and how did Tompkins miss that header. Scores that, who knows what happens?

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

What was wrong with Cabaye? Signalled and told the bench he had to come off then for 2 mins was running around and started an attack. Did he have to meet someone for the rugby?

We all know what happened after. Ledley who was part of that amazing double act with MacArthur vs the worst dross of the season came on to fake a performance.

COYP

I agree with most of your post. But a couple if thinhs. ...
If allardyce hadn't started the same team as Tuesday he would have been slaughtered on here.
Macarthur was taken off late Tuesday because he'd run himself into the ground and could barely run anymore. Would he be 100% fit 4 days later. .may explain why he was taken off..