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View cpfc1976's Profile cpfc1976 Flag Reading 05 Feb 17 8.41pm Send a Private Message to cpfc1976 Add cpfc1976 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

It's the number of shots and the goals scored that matter, not necessary the possession

Well sorry to piss on your chips but we also scored less goals and had less shots at the same point that season too.

 

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Originally posted by cpfc1976

Well sorry to piss on your chips but we also scored less goals and had less shots at the same point that season too.

Less as opposed to what? Not opposed to 2 of the 3 teams that got relegated.

It doesn't happen 100% of the time, but most of the time teams that score more finish higher

 

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Originally posted by mattteo

Take those statistics into consideration, SMART PANTS, and realize that Liverpool is 4th and Hull is f******ing 18th and it was just 90 minutes that nobody could control.

But at the end of the championship, Liverpool will be at least 10 positions higher BECAUSE of those statistics

And Leicester won the EPL with 37% average possession.

The actual fact is statistics are objective & results are not. You sit there at your keyboard spouting 'facts' that actually mean diddly squat in the real world. When called out you simply get abusive.

Look at WBA this season, unless I am imagining things they are sitting 8th in the table with the least possession, shots etc of any team in the top half of the league other than Burnley - who are much worse, statistically speaking, yet are 9th.

Liverpool may well finish at least 10 places higher than Hull but that's because of points won, not simply statistics. The game yesterday may have only been 90 minutes but the stats you usually cling to show quite clearly that Liverpool 'controlled' that game. Fact is they didn't win it, end of.

 


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Originally posted by mattteo

Less as opposed to what? Not opposed to 2 of the 3 teams that got relegated.

It doesn't happen 100% of the time, but most of the time teams that score more finish higher

incorrect. The top 3 in the last 6 seasons have been made up (mostly) by the teams that conceded the least.

 


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Originally posted by mattteo

Take those statistics into consideration, SMART PANTS, and realize that Liverpool is 4th and Hull is f******ing 18th and it was just 90 minutes that nobody could control.

But at the end of the championship, Liverpool will be at least 10 positions higher BECAUSE of those statistics

I have a compelling vision of you as being Willo's lovechild, but with Tourette's

 


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Originally posted by OldFella

I have a compelling vision of you as being Willo's lovechild, but with Tourette's

Ha ha. We'll know for sure when he is says that's f**king riseable hogwash'

 

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Originally posted by Nobbybm

And Leicester won the EPL with 37% average possession.

The actual fact is statistics are objective & results are not. You sit there at your keyboard spouting 'facts' that actually mean diddly squat in the real world. When called out you simply get abusive.

Look at WBA this season, unless I am imagining things they are sitting 8th in the table with the least possession, shots etc of any team in the top half of the league other than Burnley - who are much worse, statistically speaking, yet are 9th.

Liverpool may well finish at least 10 places higher than Hull but that's because of points won, not simply statistics. The game yesterday may have only been 90 minutes but the stats you usually cling to show quite clearly that Liverpool 'controlled' that game. Fact is they didn't win it, end of.

That is so incorrect. WBA have A LOT of shots each game. Mainly because they're masters of counter attack

 

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Originally posted by Nobbybm

incorrect. The top 3 in the last 6 seasons have been made up (mostly) by the teams that conceded the least.

That's so bull****
Leicester, Arsenal and Tottenham have only had less goals scored than 4th place Man City. But they've had more goals scored than the other 16 participants, that's why they finished higher.

This is what happens in every league, around the world, ALWAYS.

Yes, a good attack isn't all there is, this isn't rocket science and you can still get relegated with 50 goals, like Stuttgart did. But if you score more you have a higher percentage chance of finishing in a better position. Especially since the introduction of the 3 points per win rule. The rest are exceptions

 

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Originally posted by mattteo



That's so bull****
Leicester, Arsenal and Tottenham have only had less goals scored than 4th place Man City. But they've had more goals scored than the other 16 participants, that's why they finished higher.

This is what happens in every league, around the world, ALWAYS.

Yes, a good attack isn't all there is, this isn't rocket science and you can still get relegated with 50 goals, like Stuttgart did. But if you score more you have a higher percentage chance of finishing in a better position. Especially since the introduction of the 3 points per win rule. The rest are exceptions

But they all conceded less than City too.

The season before Chelsea weren't top scorers but had the best defence & won the league.

The season before that saw 2 of the top 3 with best defence as well as goals scored.

The same the season before that.

So, not so b******* after all.

To use an Allardyceism, if you don't concede you only need 1 goal to win a game. I seem to recall Arsenal underlining this several years ago.


 


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View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 05 Feb 17 10.23pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo


FOR MY KNOWLEDGE WHAT??? HOW IS ANY OF WHAT YOU WROTE THERE SUPPOSED TO CONTRADICT WHAT I SAID OR IMPROVE MY KNOWLEDGE?

WHY ARE YOU BEING A JACKASS AND TELLING ME THAT I DON'T SUPPORT THIS TEAM?

IT DISPROVES YOUR POINT BECAUSE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THERE CAREER THEY PLAYED IN CENTRAL MIDFIELD NOT ON THE WING LIKE PUNCHEON.

Are you really trying to continue this comparison between Pirlo and Puncheon, saying that what this desperate team right now needs is for Puncheon to play as the holding mid.

Hahaha. I'll give it to you, you are one colossal bell end.

 


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View Nobbybm's Profile Nobbybm Flag Dartford 05 Feb 17 10.23pm Send a Private Message to Nobbybm Add Nobbybm as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

That is so incorrect. WBA have A LOT of shots each game. Mainly because they're masters of counter attack

Really? According to the official EPL stats they've had 5 more than Hull, 4 more than Burnley & 43 less than us.

Go figure...

Edit: To save you the effort, it's here: [Link]

Edited by Nobbybm (05 Feb 2017 10.26pm)

Edited by Nobbybm (05 Feb 2017 10.27pm)

 


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View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 05 Feb 17 10.27pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by Nobbybm

So were Thierry Henry & David Trezeguet but if you think you can compare them to Punch then you are deluded.

You do actually understand that Football Manager is not 'real' don't you?

Quoting stats does not prove knowledge of the game, just knowledge of the numbers. Take yesterday's Hull V Liverpool: the scousers had:

72% possession
22 shots v 7
15 corners v 1

but, guess what, they lost 2-0.

PS: no need to SHOUT we can read in lower case too.

He really doesnt understand that point mate, I've been trying to tell him this since he listed his 48 million transfer targets a few weeks ago. Dunno who this guy thinks he is

 


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