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View fledgling's Profile fledgling Flag Beckenham 07 Feb 17 2.12pm Send a Private Message to fledgling Add fledgling as a friend

Originally posted by songsta

It's physcological

They don't want that man to succeed and feel he needs to be punished.
They won't believe or admit it but it's a sub conscious decesion.

But they did last Tuesday at Bournemouth....or were they faking the celebrations when Benteke got the 2nd and the relief was palpable?

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 07 Feb 17 2.15pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by songsta

It's physcological

They don't want that man to succeed and feel he needs to be punished.
They won't believe or admit it but it's a sub conscious decesion.

Ah, welcome to the debate Sigmund

 


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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It's a shame that so many so called fans just post nothing but rubbish on this site safe in the knowledge that their cowardly rants are anonymous

please tell me what i posted was rubbish...if it was rubbish he

a) wouldav sued the bbc 10 years ago &
b) still be in his dream job of the national team

maybe its because he hasnt got the balls to stand up in court & defend himself due to him being caught with his fingers in the pie?

or would you not like to admit we hired a wrongun as our new manager.

 


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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 07 Feb 17 3.12pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

please tell me what i posted was rubbish...if it was rubbish he

a) wouldav sued the bbc 10 years ago &
b) still be in his dream job of the national team

maybe its because he hasnt got the balls to stand up in court & defend himself due to him being caught with his fingers in the pie?

or would you not like to admit we hired a wrongun as our new manager.

Ok why don't you tell us all exactly which criminal activities Allardyce has been involved in. That should be easy for you shouldn't it, personal experience an' all?

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 07 Feb 17 3.40pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by fledgling

But they did last Tuesday at Bournemouth....or were they faking the celebrations when Benteke got the 2nd and the relief was palpable?

As good as a performance as it was, I think if we'd have let a goal in on 10 mins against bournemouth I don't think we'd have won...every time we let the first goal in, and we know we gave to score at least 2 to win, our heads drop and confidence goes out of the window. The only hope we have now is that the new signings can raise the confidence and get us a couple of wins on the trot. Even if we beat stoke, the players are going to be so nervous against boro were going to need players like Sako and luca to get them going..

 

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View Loz83's Profile Loz83 Flag Crawley 07 Feb 17 3.43pm Send a Private Message to Loz83 Add Loz83 as a friend

Get our new players in the team plus remy and mandanda and we'll start climbing the table!

 

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View fledgling's Profile fledgling Flag Beckenham 07 Feb 17 4.51pm Send a Private Message to fledgling Add fledgling as a friend

Originally posted by spartakev2

As good as a performance as it was, I think if we'd have let a goal in on 10 mins against bournemouth I don't think we'd have won...every time we let the first goal in, and we know we gave to score at least 2 to win, our heads drop and confidence goes out of the window. The only hope we have now is that the new signings can raise the confidence and get us a couple of wins on the trot. Even if we beat stoke, the players are going to be so nervous against boro were going to need players like Sako and luca to get them going..

Admittedly they're fragile mentally but I was responding to the original suggestion that the players want Allardyce to fail. If they did they wouldn't have executed his plan to 'perfection' as he put it post match.

 

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View Nobbybm's Profile Nobbybm Flag Dartford 07 Feb 17 5.24pm Send a Private Message to Nobbybm Add Nobbybm as a friend

Originally posted by fledgling

Admittedly they're fragile mentally but I was responding to the original suggestion that the players want Allardyce to fail. If they did they wouldn't have executed his plan to 'perfection' as he put it post match.

Exactly. Plus the celebrations for the 2nd goal wouldn't have been anywhere near as intense.

This lot all have contracts expiring:

Joe Ledley
Wayne Hennessey
Martin Kelly
Mathieu Flamini
Fraizer Campbell
Zeki Fryers
Damien Delaney
Julián Speroni
Kwesi Appiah

I'd expect all of them to be playing their b******s off to earn themselves a new contract, whether it be here or elsewhere, but that's far from the case. I'd go so far as to say the only 2 I'd let near the first team are Jules & Flamini which speaks volumes, especially considering Damo's past record for us. I can't help but think that he's reached another "f*** it" point in his career as he had before we signed him - he was retiring back to Ireland at that point & perhaps he's of the same frame of mind now?

My lad was devastated by the weekend's abject failure & I've tried to get him thinking a bit more positively about things. I told him to think of us as a rudderless boat heading toward a waterfall under AP. Now we have a rudder (of sorts) so we need a leader to steer the boat & give the orders with at least 10 others prepared to break their backs rowing against the tide to get us away from the drop.

There were signs at Bournemouth so the potential is there - perhaps the new recruits will be enough to get the others fighting again.

It's getting harder to keep the faith but we have to - if we don't it's game over.

 


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View sickboy's Profile sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 08 Feb 17 7.28pm Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Its all rubbish. They will play for whoever pays them. The trick is getting a manager inside their heads to go that bit further. If Big Sam (there i've said it) is that man we will stay up.

 

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View bicycle repair man's Profile bicycle repair man 08 Feb 17 7.30pm Send a Private Message to bicycle repair man Add bicycle repair man as a friend

Collymore just likes to make lots of noise, and kid himself he's an expert on football matters.
I am sure the players do care,especially Cabaye who has turned down a big money move to Marseille

 

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