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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Feb 17 7.49pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Well there are a Secretary of State for 'Communities' and a Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for 'Faith & Integration'. As it is apparently all so wonderful and non-problematic, why do we need these Ministers?


I'd imagine the government would want to keep abreast of these particular areas and have assigned posts that report back to them. Hardly obsessed with multiculturalism, which by the way, was your own criteria.
Go on. Your list hasn't really convinced me thus far.

Edited by nickgusset (14 Feb 2017 7.52pm)

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 14 Feb 17 7.57pm

Originally posted by nickgusset


I'd imagine the government would want to keep abreast of these particular areas and have assigned posts that report back to them. Hardly obsessed with multiculturalism, which by the way, was your own criteria.
Go on. Your list hasn't really convinced me thus far.

Edited by nickgusset (14 Feb 2017 7.52pm)

I think you are confusing me with someone else, I haven't been contributing to this spat. I guess everyone who opposes your views looks the same to you.
You think having a Minister for 'Faith & Integration' is merely to 'keep abreast'!

Edited by hedgehog50 (14 Feb 2017 7.58pm)

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Feb 17 8.19pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

I think you are confusing me with someone else, I haven't been contributing to this spat. I guess everyone who opposes your views looks the same to you.
You think having a Minister for 'Faith & Integration' is merely to 'keep abreast'!

Edited by hedgehog50 (14 Feb 2017 7.58pm)

Apologies, it was Hrolf who said there are people obsessed with multiculturalism but couldn't name any.

As for the emboldened part. Pretty poor really. You can go on falsely attributing stuff based on stereotypes but it's not really moving the argument forward is it?


 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 14 Feb 17 9.11pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

So you can't answer a simple question? Fair enough.

What silly games you play.

Why don't you respond to the accusation?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Feb 17 9.23pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What silly games you play.

Why don't you respond to the accusation?

You said there are people who are obsessed with multiculturalism but cannot name anyone. How are people supposed to take your argument seriously if you can't answer a simple question about it.

To my mind it is you alongside many others who use it as a pejorative term without basis or foundation other than what unsubstantiated bulls*** and conjecture has appeared the comments sections of certain papers that are obsessed with a warped perception multiculturalism.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 14 Feb 17 9.30pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

You said there are people who are obsessed with multiculturalism but cannot name anyone. How are people supposed to take your argument seriously if you can't answer a simple question about it.

To my mind it is you alongside many others who use it as a pejorative term without basis or foundation other than what unsubstantiated bulls*** and conjecture has appeared the comments sections of certain papers that are obsessed with a warped perception multiculturalism.

So you deny that the left constantly promote multi culture? Yes or no will do.

 

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View Herts_CPFC's Profile Herts_CPFC Flag 14 Feb 17 9.53pm Send a Private Message to Herts_CPFC Add Herts_CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

You said there are people obsessed with multiculturalism. I asked you to name some. It really is that simple.

Erm, pretty much anyone and everyone who describes themselves as left wing, "liberal", progressive, social justice activist etc would be pro mulitculturalism?

I'm not sure why you are even arguing this point or demanding a list of names, as it's also something you most probably agree with? :-/

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Feb 17 10.31pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So you deny that the left constantly promote multi culture? Yes or no will do.

You still haven't answered my simple question. In answer to Herts, I persist in asking because there are many things bandied about about 'the left' but people tend to go quiet when pushed on it.


As for your question Hrolf, is there a particular faction of the left you refer to or just a lazy media created construction of the left and attribute that to anyone who happens to be 'left wing'.

Lazy lazy lazy.

Edited by nickgusset (14 Feb 2017 10.38pm)

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Feb 17 10.41pm

Originally posted by Herts_CPFC

Erm, pretty much anyone and everyone who describes themselves as left wing, "liberal", progressive, social justice activist etc would be pro mulitculturalism?

I'm not sure why you are even arguing this point or demanding a list of names, as it's also something you most probably agree with? :-/


For clarity it would help if you can define in your own terms what multiculturalism is and then we can decide if what you attribute is true.

 

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View Herts_CPFC's Profile Herts_CPFC Flag 14 Feb 17 10.54pm Send a Private Message to Herts_CPFC Add Herts_CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


For clarity it would help if you can define in your own terms what multiculturalism is and then we can decide if what you attribute is true.

Clarity over what exactly? The only thing that isn't clear is whatever point you're trying, and failing, to make.

Seems like you're just avoiding the question/issue and going off on a bit of a tangent now...

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Feb 17 11.53pm

Originally posted by Herts_CPFC

Clarity over what exactly? The only thing that isn't clear is whatever point you're trying, and failing, to make.

Seems like you're just avoiding the question/issue and going off on a bit of a tangent now...


You said those on the left would promote multiculturalism. What do you mean by promoting multiculturalism?
Do you think multiculturalism is people of different backgrounds being forced together under unfettered immigration with varying results of success?

Edited by nickgusset (14 Feb 2017 11.56pm)

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 15 Feb 17 12.09am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


You said those on the left would promote multiculturalism. What do you mean by promoting multiculturalism?
Do you think multiculturalism is people of different backgrounds being forced together under unfettered immigration with varying results of success?

Edited by nickgusset (14 Feb 2017 11.56pm)


A pretty good summary.

 


Pro USA & Israel

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