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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 17 Feb 17 8.15pm

Originally posted by Herts_CPFC

Lol, it's not a trick question or a trap. Pretty much standard viewpoint for any leftist, who are hardly original in their thought? Towing the party line and not bothering to think for themselves appears to be the overall theme for anyone on this side of the political spectrum.

You won't "lose points" acknowledging or ageing with this, it's just a fact

Edited by Herts_CPFC (17 Feb 2017 8.04pm)

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

The left is littered with factions, so there isn't really an official line to follow unless you take labour as being the lefts party line. Different factions will support different aspects.

You've also not considered the tensions regarding a reintroduction of clause 4 (as you're such an expert on the left I trust you know what I'm talking about)
Not everyone on the left thinks the same on that debate. As with the referendum, not everyone on the left thinks the same.

It's a shame because such lame sweeping generalisations and tabloid fuelled comments negate any points you may be trying to get across.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 17 Feb 17 8.16pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

WTF?

Are you suggesting going back to hunter gathering?

Is that Corbyn's latest brainwave?

Oh dear, you've really missed the point.

 

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Originally posted by matt_himself

This is what is being reported as happening in the Stoke By Election:

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How terrible British values are, no?

Welcome to the politics of future Britain.

All so predictable.

 

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View Herts_CPFC's Profile Herts_CPFC Flag 17 Feb 17 8.20pm Send a Private Message to Herts_CPFC Add Herts_CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

The left is littered with factions, so there isn't really an official line to follow unless you take labour as being the lefts party line. Different factions will support different aspects.

You've also not considered the tensions regarding a reintroduction of clause 4 (as you're such an expert on the left I trust you know what I'm talking about)
Not everyone on the left thinks the same on that debate. As with the referendum, not everyone on the left thinks the same.

It's a shame because such lame sweeping generalisations and tabloid fuelled comments negate any points you may be trying to get across.

Lol, perhaps I will get to know what I'm talking about when I become one of the enlightened sheeple, just like yourself

are you disagreeing that there are general opinions which the vast majority, if not all, self described left wingers adhere with?

Let's see if we can get a yes/no answer out of you now.

Do you generally agree that multiculturalism has been and is, a positive policy in the UK? (Extra marks if you can answer yes/no without going off on a tangent about a totally unrelated topic. Its. It a trick question and I hope you have some conviction behind your beliefs).

 

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View Herts_CPFC's Profile Herts_CPFC Flag 17 Feb 17 8.21pm Send a Private Message to Herts_CPFC Add Herts_CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Oh dear, you've really missed the point.

What is your point exactly? Do you have one?

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Oh dear, you've really missed the point.

I think not.

To disapprove of corporate influence in politics is one thing but to imply that there is such thing as a corporate party suggests that your party disproves of the principles that have helped forge our entire modern society.

So Corbyn. so Left wing, so 1970's.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 17 Feb 17 8.39pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I think not.

To disapprove of corporate influence in politics is one thing but to imply that there is such thing as a corporate party suggests that your party disproves of the principles that have helped forge our entire modern society.

So Corbyn. so Left wing, so 1970's.

Sorry sunbeam, no implication. You need to stop letting your imagination run away with you.

There are parties more sympathetic to corporations / big business than others. That you cannot deny.

As for the emboldened bit, I love that you had to make up something completely different to what I said then use your made up view of what I said to deliver a punchline.

Edited by nickgusset (17 Feb 2017 8.42pm)

 

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There's a whole book about them called 'Notes from a Small Island'

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Sorry sunbeam, no implication. You need to stop letting your imagination run away with you.

There are parties more sympathetic to corporations / big business than others. That you cannot deny.

As for the emboldened bit, I love that you had to make up something completely different to what I said then use your made up view of what I said to deliver a punchline.

Edited by nickgusset (17 Feb 2017 8.42pm)

You mean like the last 'New'Labour government?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 17 Feb 17 9.10pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You mean like the last 'New'Labour government?

Yep getting rid of clause 4 was a bad thing in my book. But it was enough to persuade Murdock he could be used.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Yep getting rid of clause 4 was a bad thing in my book. But it was enough to persuade Murdock he could be used.

They didn't get rid of it. They changed it. It was mere words anyway.

Blair's Labour won the middle ground of politics and briefly cast aside the ghost of Labour's union pandering past.
If people had stuck with the Tories, this country would not be in the s*** it is now. Just an opinion. I can't back it up.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 17 Feb 17 9.36pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Yep getting rid of clause 4 was a bad thing in my book. But it was enough to persuade Murdock he could be used.

Surely stopping calling each other 'comrade' at their conferences alienated millions of working class voters?

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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