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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 10 Feb 17 7.13am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

It's no more fanciful than other periodicals. The Guardian, Telegraph and Independent are all disposed to a little fantasy every now and again.

The difference is that the Mail is more emotive than others.

Do I think they 'form opinion'. No. I don't think any newspaper forms opinion these days.

 


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View Herts_CPFC's Profile Herts_CPFC Flag 10 Feb 17 9.06am Send a Private Message to Herts_CPFC Add Herts_CPFC as a friend

The worse thing about the Mail is their hero worship of royals, celebrity obession and cringeworthy pandering to the quaint upper middle classes.

As for the news and political stance, they are no worse than the Guardian but they seem to have become a palestine-esque cause celebre for left wingers to rally around, and indulge in some extreme virtue signalling by trashing the paper at every opportunity.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Feb 17 11.46am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Bert the Head

I'd be very interested to see some of the evidence that the Media is left wing.

There is plenty of evidence that the media is right wing. Try the Media Lens website. As an example, I have posted a link to there article entitled `Undermining Democracy – Corporate Media Bias on Jeremy Corbyn, Boris Johnson and Syria'

[Link]


Turn on your TV.

 

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Hoof Hearted 10 Feb 17 11.50am

POT.KETTLE.BLACK.

Wikipedia branding anything else unreliable.... the Irony.... LOL

They're probably still showing the Earth as flat FFS.

 

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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 10 Feb 17 11.57am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

POT.KETTLE.BLACK.

Wikipedia branding anything else unreliable.... the Irony.... LOL

They're probably still showing the Earth as flat FFS.

A few years ago I amended a Wikipedia article about the rivalry between Palace and Brighton with a line about how we were the first to beat them at their new stadium (true) and that their fans were seen to be ripping up their season tickets and calling for Poyet to be fired (false). It was there for months before they took it down. Yeah, Wikipedia, full of facts!

 




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Hoof Hearted 10 Feb 17 11.59am

Originally posted by Part Time James

A few years ago I amended a Wikipedia article about the rivalry between Palace and Brighton with a line about how we were the first to beat them at their new stadium (true) and that their fans were seen to be ripping up their season tickets and calling for Poyet to be fired (false). It was there for months before they took it down. Yeah, Wikipedia, full of facts!

EXACTLY!

Wikipedia besmirching the Daily Mail probably gives it credence?

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 10 Feb 17 11.59am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The editors described the arguments for a ban as “centred on the Daily Mail’s reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism and flat-out fabrication”.

Now another trite tory tabloid rag like the Express.

 

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View thegreatlardino's Profile thegreatlardino Flag crawley/selsey 10 Feb 17 12.01pm Send a Private Message to thegreatlardino Add thegreatlardino as a friend

trouble with wikipedia, is that give it 5 years, my kids will believe all whats written on the site

 


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Hoof Hearted 10 Feb 17 12.07pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

The editors described the arguments for a ban as “centred on the Daily Mail’s reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism and flat-out fabrication”.

Now another trite tory tabloid rag like the Express.

That hasn't stopped Corbyn from carrying on as Labour leader after he demonstrated all these 'qualities' with the stunt he pulled on the Virgin train shown sat down in the corridor because he couldn't find a seat despite the train's CCTV actually showing him walking past loads of empty seats beforehand.

Is Jezza exempt from vilification for "poor fact checking, sensationalism and flat-out fabrication?"

Edited by Hoof Hearted (10 Feb 2017 12.08pm)

 

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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 10 Feb 17 12.16pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

That hasn't stopped Corbyn from carrying on as Labour leader after he demonstrated all these 'qualities' with the stunt he pulled on the Virgin train shown sat down in the corridor because he couldn't find a seat despite the train's CCTV actually showing him walking past loads of empty seats beforehand.

Is Jezza exempt from vilification for "poor fact checking, sensationalism and flat-out fabrication?"

Edited by Hoof Hearted (10 Feb 2017 12.08pm)

Only true if you didn't get that story from Wikipedia or The Mail

Edited by Part Time James (10 Feb 2017 12.16pm)

 




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View OknotOK's Profile OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 10 Feb 17 12.28pm Send a Private Message to OknotOK Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add OknotOK as a friend

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

EXACTLY!

Wikipedia besmirching the Daily Mail probably gives it credence?

Sort of missing the point? Wiki isn't claiming it is (more) reliable; it is claiming that when people want to cite/source something that the Daily Mail has proven to be an unreliable one.

It is saying that in too many instances, when people have used the Daily Mail as a source it has been proven to be incorrect.

The Mail should possibly be offended at the comparison to say RT or Fox News, both of which are still allowable.

 


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View OknotOK's Profile OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 10 Feb 17 12.31pm Send a Private Message to OknotOK Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add OknotOK as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Turn on your TV.

You made a similar sort of suggestion - that got very muddled - about the ITV News not that long ago and it was comprehensively disproved then.

There is evidence - from credible sources - that the news is slightly biased towards the "political right".

 


"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

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