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miles18 Flag Telford 15 Feb 17 12.38pm

No matter what League we are playing in next season we need a new manager.

 


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View Dan1994's Profile Dan1994 Flag Wallington 15 Feb 17 1.00pm Send a Private Message to Dan1994 Add Dan1994 as a friend

I don't know why we would rely on our youth. Our youth aren't very good:

- Kaikai couldn't get a look in at Brentford (and was crap vs Bolton).
- Boateng wasn't that great at Bristol Rovers recently.
- Ladapo's doing well at Shrewsbury, but is 24.
- Anderson don't know much about, but his apps and goals rate isn't that good.

I hope I am wrong, but I can't see any of them being anything better than mediocre Championship players a la others of ours who've ended up that way.

Besides them, I think we should keep Damo; he's been here ages and he's a character, and I cant imagine he's the one to be asking for silly wages. I'd keep Ward as a back-up aswell. Ledley, Hennessey and Campbell can go, along with Mutch, Kelly, Appiah, Sako and Fryers (although the latter two might be useful squad rotation players).

 

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View Noz's Profile Noz Flag North Hampshire 15 Feb 17 1.19pm Send a Private Message to Noz Add Noz as a friend

Originally posted by Pete53

Yes, it would be good to see some of the academy graduating, although it got me thinking how much longer can we refer to the likes of Kaikai and Boateng as being youngsters - Kaikai will be coming up 22 at the start of next season and Boateng is now 21. Now normally that sounds very young to me but, in footballing terms, by that age,players would hope to be playing first team football and not still waiting for their chance.


I was going to post something along these lines too. Kaikai hasn't exactly been prolific in the lower divisions, none at Crawley town, 5 in 25 for Cambridge, 12 in 26 for Shrewsbury and 3 in 18 for Brentford. Let's not forget, even Patrick Bamford can score in the Championship.

 
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View Surbeagle's Profile Surbeagle Flag 15 Feb 17 1.27pm Send a Private Message to Surbeagle Add Surbeagle as a friend

Going back to the original question, I would suggest Benteke, Zaha, Townsend and Cabaye will all go even if we stay up.

If so, we would recoup plenty of money for SA to go and spend, and it would be very interesting to see the types of player he brings in. I'd hope for a focus on defenders and midfield but time will tell.

 
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View Surbeagle's Profile Surbeagle Flag 15 Feb 17 1.38pm Send a Private Message to Surbeagle Add Surbeagle as a friend

Originally posted by Noz


I was going to post something along these lines too. Kaikai hasn't exactly been prolific in the lower divisions, none at Crawley town, 5 in 25 for Cambridge, 12 in 26 for Shrewsbury and 3 in 18 for Brentford. Let's not forget, even Patrick Bamford can score in the Championship.

There is no more damning indictment than that.

Still, if we do go down I'd be keen to see these guys given a go (even just up until xmas) rather than go and spank a load of money on journeyman Champ/Lower Prem players as relegated teams so often do.

 
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View KAOS's Profile KAOS Flag In a tree 15 Feb 17 1.57pm Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

Originally posted by Noz


I was going to post something along these lines too. Kaikai hasn't exactly been prolific in the lower divisions, none at Crawley town, 5 in 25 for Cambridge, 12 in 26 for Shrewsbury and 3 in 18 for Brentford. Let's not forget, even Patrick Bamford can score in the Championship.

And Gayle & Murray (even tho Murray never had a problem scoring in the Prem tbf)

 
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View Dangermouse's Profile Dangermouse Flag Hastings 15 Feb 17 7.02pm Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

Hennessey
Kelly
Delaney
Ledley
Mutch
Williams
Campbell
Sako
Chungy

Think Wilf will leave anyway.
Think he will want to keep Townsend and Cabaye, but will depend on the players themselves.

 

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View BelfastEagle's Profile BelfastEagle Flag 15 Feb 17 8.49pm Send a Private Message to BelfastEagle Add BelfastEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Surbeagle

IF we go down, one of the few positives would be that there would be a chance to give some of the young starlets a proper run out - Kaikai, Boateng et al

Only if we are aiming to go straight to League 1. These guys would prob be ok in League1 or 2.

 
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View Johnny Byrne's Profile Johnny Byrne Flag Pinner 15 Feb 17 8.53pm Send a Private Message to Johnny Byrne Add Johnny Byrne as a friend

Clear out if we stay up or go down.

 
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View JonJon Blazino's Profile JonJon Blazino Flag 16 Feb 17 3.38am Send a Private Message to JonJon Blazino Add JonJon Blazino as a friend

There will be a mass exodus whether we stay up or go down.
I hope the manager is the first to go.

 
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View punksnotdead's Profile punksnotdead Flag croydon 16 Feb 17 3.07pm Send a Private Message to punksnotdead Add punksnotdead as a friend

If we go down the main thing we'll be clearing out will be supporters, I reckon about 8,000 of them

 
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View victor43's Profile victor43 Flag St. Albans 17 Feb 17 11.19am Send a Private Message to victor43 Add victor43 as a friend

Yes big clear out required which is difficult whichever league we're in.

Looking at our squad, excluding loans, it is already pretty unbalanced in terms of age.

Young players (under 24)
Wickham - keep
Kaikai - keep
J Benteke - release

Peak players (24-29)
Joel Ward - keep
Kelly - new contract if in Champ, otherwise let go
PVA - keep
Schlupp - keep
Tomkins - keep
McArthur - keep
Campbell - let go
Wilf - try to keep!
Townsend - keep unless good offer
Lee - keep if in Champ, otherwise let go
Mutch - keep if Champ
Benteke - try to keep, sell if get good money
Fryers - get rid
Souare - keep
Sako - keep
Luka - keep
Appiah - let go

Old players (30 and over):
Jules - retire
Hennessey - out of contract
Mandanda - keep if possible
Dann - keep
Delaney - let go
Cabaye - keep/sell if we can get decent money for him
Ledley - let go
Punch - think we'll keep him, contract til 2019, but dont really want him in the team anymore, especially if we stay up

Pretty amazing that our only regular player in the squad under 24 is Wickham - need some youth!


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