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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 20 Feb 17 8.50pm

Bit of a fishing thread this innit?

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 20 Feb 17 8.50pm

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

Do find it quite amusing seeing Matt throwing out accusations of people being virgins who seem to disagree with his hatred of hippies. I mean its kinda because of hippies that young couples can live and 'love' (bang) without the need to be wed or engage in a relationship. Also was huge for the Civil rights and LGBT movements and gave people power over an oppressive state. People even suggest that the birth of the internet and personal computers stem from the self determined ideas of the free thinking movement of the 60s.

The hippie movement no longer exists and the regressive left is a separate entity I think confusing the two is naive.

Also feel like the sexual revolution normalised loads of stuff considered depraved before. Guarantee more people take it up the bum and do oral than before.

Edited by coulsdoneagle (20 Feb 2017 8.37pm)

Who suggests that - people who are stoned?
By the way, I don't think Matt was being completely serious when he started this thread.

Edited by hedgehog50 (20 Feb 2017 8.51pm)

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Feb 17 8.55pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

The important role of the counter-culture movement of the sixties, often labelled 'hippies' is that it brought together civil rights movements, anti-war protesters with youth culture, politicals, radicals, left wing movements, student movements, art and literature movements, academics and freaks alike. Much like CND would do in the UK.

Vietnam was a mistake then, and it seems like a worse mistake now. Its as foolish as the Russian Invasion of Afghanistan was.

The US took decades to recover from the blunting it took to its military confidence, and it hasn't engaged in a full scale war really since. It also did more to agitate and spread leftist movements across the globe and inflame left wing movements.

The best way of preventing the spread of Communism, has always been by extending reasonable rights to people, and a better way of life - Not suppressing those ambitions with force of arms. In Vietnam, the US stepped in against a foe that had already effective beaten the Japanese and the French, had massive popular support in the countryside, where poverty was rife, and its primary ally was a corrupt and unpopular regime who's military were barely interested in fighting.

The Vietnamese forces knew they wouldn't win militarily, but they also knew by the time they'd beaten the French, that they only had to cause sufficient casualties to make the war politically untenable in the US.

The US, made the same mistake the French did, they failed to understand that the desire for a better life, a hatred of oppression and nationalism, are very difficult ideas to just kill. Especially when you are increasingly reliant on drafting kids for 1 year who never wanted to be there in the first place.

What was the up side?

 

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View samprior's Profile samprior Flag Hamburg 20 Feb 17 9.05pm Send a Private Message to samprior Add samprior as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

Is there a more discredited 'sub genre' than the so-called hippie movement?

The liberal counter culture brought us the curse of casual drug usage, the death sentence that is 'free love', crap music and the evil that is the challenge of soceital norms by long haired, godless, bead wearing ne'er-do-wells.

Hippie culture continues to ruin modern day life, despite the best efforts of Reagan, Thatcher, Nixon, the Altamont free concert and punk rock to strangle it. From bellends like Russell Brand stating he will bring his daughter up in a 'gender neutral' manner to the 'not in my name' oxygen thieves whom need a healthy dose of reality rather than sitting in their manicured hands denouncing whatever the government does as 'evil', the hippie agenda is still be perpetrated by people whom should know better.

I would like schools to teach that the hippie movement was regrettable and evil in order for future generations not to repeat the mistakes of the past. We could then attempt to blot this unfortunate stain of human history from memory.

Fat chance, there's currently a popular trend in schools applying the 'growth mindset' approach to teaching...apparently something to do with instilling the belief that a child can better them self. What a load of hippy bullsh*t!

 

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 20 Feb 17 9.10pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

Do find it quite amusing seeing Matt throwing out accusations of people being virgins who seem to disagree with his hatred of hippies. I mean its kinda because of hippies that young couples can live and 'love' (bang) without the need to be wed or engage in a relationship. Also was huge for the Civil rights and LGBT movements and gave people power over an oppressive state. People even suggest that the birth of the internet and personal computers stem from the self determined ideas of the free thinking movement of the 60s.

The hippie movement no longer exists and the regressive left is a separate entity I think confusing the two is naive.

Also feel like the sexual revolution normalised loads of stuff considered depraved before. Guarantee more people take it up the bum and do oral than before.

Edited by coulsdoneagle (20 Feb 2017 8.37pm)

So you are saying that the success of a political movement should be judged upon its protagonists ability to increase the levels of sodomy performed by the general public?

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 20 Feb 17 9.11pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by samprior

Fat chance, there's currently a popular trend in schools applying the 'growth mindset' approach to teaching...apparently something to do with instilling the belief that a child can better them self. What a load of hippy bullsh*t!

Quite. It is a regrettable situation.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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legaleagle Flag 20 Feb 17 9.21pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

No substance, just insults.

I thought you were above that, no?

Unfortunately,the substance wafted straight past you,no?

For an insult guru,you are also remarkably thin skinned when it comes to banter ...If I was aiming to insult you,you would know it.

Edited by legaleagle (20 Feb 2017 9.24pm)

 

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 20 Feb 17 9.27pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

Unfortunately,the substance wafted straight past you,no?

For an insult guru,you are also remarkably thin skinned when it comes to banter ...If I was aiming to insult you,you would know it.

Edited by legaleagle (20 Feb 2017 9.24pm)

No, I am not bothered by your insults. Go ahead, if it makes you feel better for whatever is causing your inner turmoil (hollow marriage, s*** job, broke, small p****, I don't know). However, the hypocrisy is what I find amusing and love pointing it out to you and your sort when you do it.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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legaleagle Flag 20 Feb 17 9.35pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

No, I am not bothered by your insults. Go ahead, if it makes you feel better for whatever is causing your inner turmoil (hollow marriage, s*** job, broke, small p****, I don't know). However, the hypocrisy is what I find amusing and love pointing it out to you and your sort when you do it.

You are on top bonkers form tonight Matthew,continuing on from your OP .Thank you for enlivening an otherwise dull Monday.

It is IMHO your utter inability to see your own constant hypocrisy in your rather silly and shallow lefty bashing which is one of your more attention catching attributes.

Better anyone of 'my sort'than anyone of 'your sort' in the real non-virtual world perhaps though,no?

Nighty night

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miss smith Flag london 20 Feb 17 9.58pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Is there a more discredited 'sub genre' than the so-called hippie movement?

The liberal counter culture brought us the curse of casual drug usage, the death sentence that is 'free love', crap music and the evil that is the challenge of soceital norms by long haired, godless, bead wearing ne'er-do-wells.

Hippie culture continues to ruin modern day life, despite the best efforts of Reagan, Thatcher, Nixon, the Altamont free concert and punk rock to strangle it. From bellends like Russell Brand stating he will bring his daughter up in a 'gender neutral' manner to the 'not in my name' oxygen thieves whom need a healthy dose of reality rather than sitting in their manicured hands denouncing whatever the government does as 'evil', the hippie agenda is still be perpetrated by people whom should know better.

I would like schools to teach that the hippie movement was regrettable and evil in order for future generations not to repeat the mistakes of the past. We could then attempt to blot this unfortunate stain of human history from memory.

your posts are always a mix of the very disturbing to the highly entertaining i will look forward to the next instalment ,i just hope everybody knows that you are not that serious ,what are your views on love and tolerance

 

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 20 Feb 17 10.01pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

You are on top bonkers form tonight Matthew,continuing on from your OP .Thank you for enlivening an otherwise dull Monday.

It is IMHO your utter inability to see your own constant hypocrisy in your rather silly and shallow lefty bashing which is one of your more attention catching attributes.

Better anyone of 'my sort'than anyone of 'your sort' in the real non-virtual world perhaps though,no?

Nighty night

xxxxxxxx

Erm, you haven't actually defended hippies, you've just bashed me and Hrolf which is kind of what you accused me of, above. The only difference is that I haven't used photos to justify my views but I am happy to put some up on here demonstrating why a bunch of drugged up, disease spreading roustabouts should not be lauded as a serious political movement, if it helps you with this nuances of this debate.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 20 Feb 17 10.37pm

Originally posted by samprior

Fat chance, there's currently a popular trend in schools applying the 'growth mindset' approach to teaching...apparently something to do with instilling the belief that a child can better them self. What a load of hippy bullsh*t!

loadacrap. like brain gym. money wasted.

Aspects of growth mindset work with some kids though.

 

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