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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Feb 17 10.58pm |
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Originally posted by collier row eagle
Why don't you change the record ffs willo, are refs beyond criticism in your book? NO - I have always stated that referees make mistakes - Do you expect them to officate at a game of 90+ minutes when they have to make many judgement calls and get them 100% right in a fast moving game when instant decisions have to be made ? All about angles etc and often a referee doesn't have the best view if players are in his line of sight.OK for all of us who seen umpteen replays from different angles.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 25 Feb 17 11.01pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
We had a terrific and much needed win today and people are still moaning about refereeing decisions as if they cost us points !!!! The important thing was the win, NOT referee's decisions for goodness sake ! Going out now to celebrate a wonderful 3 points !!!! Ironically when we lose and moan about poor refereeing you tell us we can't moan about refereeing when we lose for being crap. The fact we still feel aggrieved even after a good win illustrates how woeful he was.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Feb 17 11.06pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Ironically when we lose and moan about poor refereeing you tell us we can't moan about refereeing when we lose for being crap. The fact we still feel aggrieved even after a good win illustrates how woeful he was. I really don't know why supporters are "Aggrieved" when we have secured a vital and important win. Surely the focus should be on the team,performance and stupendous result than being "Aggrieved" about a referee - one would think he cost a vital win for goodness sake.
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 Michaelawt85 Bexley 25 Feb 17 11.11pm |
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He was appalling today.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 25 Feb 17 11.25pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I really don't know why supporters are "Aggrieved" when we have secured a vital and important win. Surely the focus should be on the team,performance and stupendous result than being "Aggrieved" about a referee - one would think he cost a vital win for goodness sake.
You're missing or avoiding the point. When they do cost us a game you still say we can't criticise them. Us winning does not excuse an incredibly poor performance by the officials. Nor should it.
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| peterg Anerley 25 Feb 17 11.27pm |
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Motd unanimous that the foul on Jimmy Mac was a pen and astonished that the ref booked him instead. Also thought the early foul on Wilf was a pen too.
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chateauferret  25 Feb 17 11.33pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I really don't know why supporters are "Aggrieved" when we have secured a vital and important win. Surely the focus should be on the team,performance and stupendous result than being "Aggrieved" about a referee - one would think he cost a vital win for goodness sake.
Oh look, here comes Willo gallantly to the defence of another referree who has delivered yet another absolutely f***ing abysmal set of decisions. Just seen that analysed on MoTD and they showed very clearly the positions of the officials with the ref having a fine view of the incident, which completely blows that excuse out of the water. Again, I didn't need replays, different angles, or several goes to see that it was a penalty: it was obvious at first sight. My eight-year-old was calling these incidents correctly at first sight FFS. So your argument that this was a difficult decision to make is bollocks. And are you somehow suggesting that s*** refereeing is acceptable when it doesn't end up affecting the outcome? If you really believe that then you're loonier than I thought. BTW what about the pen Wilf should have had in the fifth minute, the so-called handball against Benteke, the offside that obviously wasn't? Face facts, Willo. The standard of refereeing in the Premiership is a f***ing disgrace.
Edited by chateauferret (25 Feb 2017 11.46pm)
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| Terry Vegetables Forest Hill 25 Feb 17 11.38pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
We had a terrific and much needed win today and people are still moaning about refereeing decisions as if they cost us points !!!! The important thing was the win, NOT referee's decisions for goodness sake ! Going out now to celebrate a wonderful 3 points !!!! Very nearly cost us the points, & commenting on a refs performance after a match isn't dependent on result, or is there a new rule as to what we're allowed to comment on?
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| Nobbybm Dartford 25 Feb 17 11.57pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I really don't know why supporters are "Aggrieved" when we have secured a vital and important win. Surely the focus should be on the team,performance and stupendous result than being "Aggrieved" about a referee - one would think he cost a vital win for goodness sake.
Maybe because if he'd done his job correctly we'd have had at least one penalty, a chance to extend our lead & put the game out of reach. As it was, we had a nervous finish defending a single goal lead where one mistake could've cost us 2 points and further dented confidence. Every report I've seen & pundit I've heard agrees he was awful yet you seem to think everything is ok as we won. It's highly likely that we'll be "team most likely to feel aggrieved " (yet again) and "stonewall decision of the week" after ref review which, to be frank, I'm getting bored with.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Feb 17 12.00am |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
Oh look, here comes Willo gallantly to the defence of another referree who has delivered yet another absolutely f***ing abysmal set of decisions. Just seen that analysed on MoTD and they showed very clearly the positions of the officials with the ref having a fine view of the incident, which completely blows that excuse out of the water. Again, I didn't need replays, different angles, or several goes to see that it was a penalty: it was obvious at first sight. My eight-year-old was calling these incidents correctly at first sight FFS. So your argument that this was a difficult decision to make is bollocks. And are you somehow suggesting that s*** refereeing is acceptable when it doesn't end up affecting the outcome? If you really believe that then you're loonier than I thought. BTW what about the pen Wilf should have had in the fifth minute, the so-called handball against Benteke, the offside that obviously wasn't? Face facts, Willo. The standard of refereeing in the Premiership is a f***ing disgrace.
Edited by chateauferret (25 Feb 2017 11.46pm) You mention "Pundits" - they probably have had the advantage of viewing incidents from various angles several times using "Slow-Mos". The Referee does NOT have this advantage and forms a judgement from his sight angle in a fast moving scenario, not forgetting the fact that he has to be virtually instananeous in his decision making. All very easy reviewing incidents in the comfort of a TV studio and several times at that. As for so called s..e refereeing being acceptable, after every game his/her performance is 'Forensically' analysed in the 'Corridors of power' and they will form a judgement as to his/her performance on the day. Edited by Willo (26 Feb 2017 12.06am)
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Feb 17 12.02am |
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Originally posted by Nobbybm
Maybe because if he'd done his job correctly we'd have had at least one penalty, a chance to extend our lead & put the game out of reach. As it was, we had a nervous finish defending a single goal lead where one mistake could've cost us 2 points and further dented confidence. Every report I've seen & pundit I've heard agrees he was awful yet you seem to think everything is ok as we won. It's highly likely that we'll be "team most likely to feel aggrieved " (yet again) and "stonewall decision of the week" after ref review which, to be frank, I'm getting bored with. What I am saying is that it is somewhat befuddling that here we are winning a vital game and the focus is on the referee's performance.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Feb 17 12.05am |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
Oh look, here comes Willo gallantly to the defence of another referree who has delivered yet another absolutely f***ing abysmal set of decisions. Just seen that analysed on MoTD and they showed very clearly the positions of the officials with the ref having a fine view of the incident, which completely blows that excuse out of the water. Again, I didn't need replays, different angles, or several goes to see that it was a penalty: it was obvious at first sight. My eight-year-old was calling these incidents correctly at first sight FFS. So your argument that this was a difficult decision to make is bollocks. And are you somehow suggesting that s*** refereeing is acceptable when it doesn't end up affecting the outcome? If you really believe that then you're loonier than I thought. BTW what about the pen Wilf should have had in the fifth minute, the so-called handball against Benteke, the offside that obviously wasn't? Face facts, Willo. The standard of refereeing in the Premiership is a f***ing disgrace.
Edited by chateauferret (25 Feb 2017 11.46pm) Totally and utterly disagree.Hogwash and then some in my book.
I've made my views perfectly clear.Don't want to turn this into a wearisome WILLO debate so this is my last post in this thread.
Edited by Willo (26 Feb 2017 12.17am)
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