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View Sansbup's Profile Sansbup Flag Norfolk 29 Apr 17 8.09pm Send a Private Message to Sansbup Add Sansbup as a friend

I know I'll get flak, but it's similar lack of realisation on the part of his fans as when some didn't realise the damage Pardew was doing, but Hennessey made amends for one early good save by being non-existent for both goals. Bloody rubbish.

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 29 Apr 17 8.09pm

Originally posted by Painter

So Pickford has never been beaten at his near post then.
Whats the point in bollocking the defence as they are trailing the player shooting, bit pointless.

What the hell are you defending man!?

 


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View robdave2k's Profile robdave2k Flag 29 Apr 17 8.11pm Send a Private Message to robdave2k Add robdave2k as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

So Pickford has never been beaten at his near post then.
Whats the point in bollocking the defence as they are trailing the player shooting, bit pointless.

I'm making a point in general. Your keeper should have a presence - WH doesn't. He's 6ft 5, that gives him credibility which he then gives up by appearing to be limp wristed and having no discernible
Character. A keeper should inspire the defence, not the other way around.

Now onto Pickford, who you seem to have singled out for some reason. He plays behind a crap defence, doesn't stop every shot and yet you are using that as defence of Hennesey. The two are mutually exclusive. So let's do a comparison shall we. Pickford is 8 years younger, 4 inches shorter. He has a massively higher saves percentage, but let's put that into context shall we.

If Jordan Pickford had conceded that 2nd goal he wouldn't be getting called out on the Sunderland message boards, because it is (and here is the key point) an isolated mistake.

When it happens on multiple occasions then that is called a trend.

A trend is what tends to happen most times.

Most times is what you would call normal.

I have zero faith in Hennesey at this level because of the trends with him in goal.

 

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 29 Apr 17 8.20pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Harry Beever

I doubt we will be either next season

Thank god for that

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 29 Apr 17 8.22pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by robdave2k

I'm making a point in general. Your keeper should have a presence - WH doesn't. He's 6ft 5, that gives him credibility which he then gives up by appearing to be limp wristed and having no discernible
Character. A keeper should inspire the defence, not the other way around.

Now onto Pickford, who you seem to have singled out for some reason. He plays behind a crap defence, doesn't stop every shot and yet you are using that as defence of Hennesey. The two are mutually exclusive. So let's do a comparison shall we. Pickford is 8 years younger, 4 inches shorter. He has a massively higher saves percentage, but let's put that into context shall we.

If Jordan Pickford had conceded that 2nd goal he wouldn't be getting called out on the Sunderland message boards, because it is (and here is the key point) an isolated mistake.

When it happens on multiple occasions then that is called a trend.

A trend is what tends to happen most times.

Most times is what you would call normal.

I have zero faith in Hennesey at this level because of the trends with him in goal.


Look at the stats, Hennessey is ranked 11th in the Premier league overall in performance.

This constant blaming him for everything is just irrational.

 

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View robdave2k's Profile robdave2k Flag 29 Apr 17 8.34pm Send a Private Message to robdave2k Add robdave2k as a friend

Originally posted by Painter


Look at the stats, Hennessey is ranked 11th in the Premier league overall in performance.

This constant blaming him for everything is just irrational.

Go on then - link please.

And just as a point anyway statistics are meaningless. A 25 yard thunderbolt in to the top corner counts as a goal every bit as much as one that trickles through a goalkeepers arms.

The mark of a good keeper is one who does the basics right, organises the defence and makes saves they are expected to.

A great keeper stops what you don't expect him to.

What you are basically saying is that Hennessey could not have been expected to save that second goal today. Therefore by default if you are not expecting him to save something on his near post then he isn't good enough.

You would either expect him to save it - which he hasn't so it's an error

Or

You don't expect him to save it - in which case he isn't a top
Goalkeeper.


 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 29 Apr 17 9.15pm

Originally posted by robdave2k

Go on then - link please.

And just as a point anyway statistics are meaningless. A 25 yard thunderbolt in to the top corner counts as a goal every bit as much as one that trickles through a goalkeepers arms.

The mark of a good keeper is one who does the basics right, organises the defence and makes saves they are expected to.

A great keeper stops what you don't expect him to.

What you are basically saying is that Hennessey could not have been expected to save that second goal today. Therefore by default if you are not expecting him to save something on his near post then he isn't good enough.

You would either expect him to save it - which he hasn't so it's an error

Or

You don't expect him to save it - in which case he isn't a top
Goalkeeper.


Well exactly.

 


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People who defend him are like the ones who defend/defended Pardew at the end. I do not get it and don't want to.

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 29 Apr 17 11.21pm

Originally posted by VSEagle215

People who defend him are like the ones who defend/defended Pardew at the end. I do not get it and don't want to.

It's insanity. Clear insanity.

 


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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

It's insanity. Clear insanity.

Do you have medical qualifications for saying that?

 


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View Dangermouse's Profile Dangermouse Flag Hastings 29 Apr 17 11.28pm Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

I haven't seen the goals again, but he just doesn't pull off saves when we so need them. Yes he was excellent at Chelsea, but that's one game in two seasons. Heaton kept them in it, cos he did what keeper's should do, make saves. Have no confidence in Wayne, sorry.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 Apr 17 11.28pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Like I said on another thread. When you have a truly class keeper suddenly you realise what you have been putting up with. When Nige first came, once he settled in it was a revelation.

Same now in my opinion. The defence doesn't trust WH. They get jumpy when they have to rely on him. He doesn't come out nearly enough, doesn't command the area and just doesn't look dominant enough. He rarely makes saves that are out of the ordinary. He's a journeyman.

When we get a proper keeper we will look back and say why didn't we do it earlier.

 

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