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View paperhat's Profile paperhat Flag croydon 24 Sep 17 11.03pm Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

Originally posted by cpj
No he doesn't! He makes about the same number of errors as most PL keepers. If you really think our problems are down to the goalie (when we haven't scored in 10 of our last 11 games) then you are deluded.

Yes Wayne.

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 24 Sep 17 11.15pm

Originally posted by johnno42000

So you sit amongst others that share your view? That doesn't make it right.

You really do seem to have a fixation about him which, considering we have not scored in ages, seems very weird. Do you post as much about our defence, midfield and attack or is it just a personal grievance against Hennessey?

We may not be scoring but we're also not getting spanked every week. If he did better in the low score games such as Southampton for example, when he parried the ball straight to their goal scorer. Then we may have a few points on the board through draws. Anyway, we're not seeing the same thing at games it seems. So let's just agree to disagree.

 


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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 24 Sep 17 11.23pm Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

Although I don't think its a good idea, I would like Jules to start the next two games, because I am intrigued as to what the feedback will be on here if he lets a goal in, particularly if its one he should have saved. I would expect total equality of course but somehow doubt it.
If he had started against City it would have made no difference other than be perhaps worse.

 


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View robdave2k's Profile robdave2k Flag 25 Sep 17 7.44am Send a Private Message to robdave2k Add robdave2k as a friend

Originally posted by johnno42000

Then watch him against Southampton where, for their goal, he went down for the ball when the challenge from Long went in. That showed bravery.

Edited by johnno42000 (24 Sep 2017 10.52pm)

He is 6ft 5

Long is 5ft 11.

Now I appreciate Long is can be quite dirty but if you are the size Hennessy is you should be giving those players more to worry about.

The goal that sums Hennessy up for me was the Sunderland f***fest last year. First goal - Hennessy should be taking that ball and taking the player out if needed, but instead it was another limp wristed attempt. It shouldn't even get to debate about it was a foul.

The problem is that because of his size he looks the part.

Kind of the reverse of the whole being greater of the sum of the parts in that he should be a much, much better keeper than he is.

Edited by robdave2k (25 Sep 2017 7.45am)

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 25 Sep 17 7.57am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I would prefer him to be replaced.
Regardless of the saves he makes - which is what he is paid for by the way - he appears unwilling to commit to anything.
He definitely has too many flaws and they outweigh any good points in my opinion.

 

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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 25 Sep 17 8.55am Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Originally posted by robdave2k

He is 6ft 5

Long is 5ft 11.

Now I appreciate Long is can be quite dirty but if you are the size Hennessy is you should be giving those players more to worry about.

The goal that sums Hennessy up for me was the Sunderland f***fest last year. First goal - Hennessy should be taking that ball and taking the player out if needed, but instead it was another limp wristed attempt. It shouldn't even get to debate about it was a foul.

The problem is that because of his size he looks the part.

Kind of the reverse of the whole being greater of the sum of the parts in that he should be a much, much better keeper than he is.

Edited by robdave2k (25 Sep 2017 7.45am)

The comparison to Longs size is ridiculous. He went down at Longs feet. Long could have been 10 feet tall or 1 foot tall, either way his feet will be in the same place, on the floor.

 


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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 25 Sep 17 8.58am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

We may not be scoring but we're also not getting spanked every week. If he did better in the low score games such as Southampton for example, when he parried the ball straight to their goal scorer. Then we may have a few points on the board through draws. Anyway, we're not seeing the same thing at games it seems. So let's just agree to disagree.

Err 5-0 is a spanking is it not?

 

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 25 Sep 17 9.07am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

One of his problems is taking comments too literally.

When people call WH statuesque he thinks he should behave like one - particularly at free kicks.

 

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View robdave2k's Profile robdave2k Flag 25 Sep 17 9.18am Send a Private Message to robdave2k Add robdave2k as a friend

Originally posted by johnno42000

The comparison to Longs size is ridiculous. He went down at Longs feet. Long could have been 10 feet tall or 1 foot tall, either way his feet will be in the same place, on the floor.

We must have been watching a different game.

The point being though is that he doesn't command in the air either.

After the goal on Saturday there was a corner come in, he goes to punch clear. No positivity, no aggression, no "wanting it" for lack of a better term.

It's all very half hearted with WH.

So for example.

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Here is the Southampton keeper with the save from Benteke - makes himself big and stands up and keeps his head up.

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Here is Burnley's keeper with a save from Benteke - makes himself big and stands up and keeps his head straight.

Now compare those two with the first goal at Man City. WH doesn't look at the player. Not suggesting he could have saved it, but if he has time to think "hang on I might get hurt here" then he does seem to go in with that mindset. I refer you to the Sunderland goal.

I don't think he is a totally poor keeper, but given his attributes he should be much, much better.



 

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View cpj's Profile cpj Flag Kent 25 Sep 17 9.45am Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by paperhat

Yes Wayne.

Oh, you're SO funny ..... not!

Just because someone disagrees with you.

 

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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 25 Sep 17 10.30am Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

So many managers would seem to keep picking him, that can't be a coincidence, but we're obviously not going to agree on this so let's just agree to disagree.

 


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View robdave2k's Profile robdave2k Flag 25 Sep 17 10.42am Send a Private Message to robdave2k Add robdave2k as a friend

Originally posted by johnno42000

So many managers would seem to keep picking him, that can't be a coincidence, but we're obviously not going to agree on this so let's just agree to disagree.

Until Speroni got injured and McCarthy turned out to not be very good and Mandanda got injured.

So he's there by default more than anything.

 

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