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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 30 Apr 17 8.50am Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Agree about the substitution. Remy for a midfielder yes but Campbell for Benteke was a joke.

Our defence looked in trouble from the first attack, Hennessey not the reason we lost but didn't exactly help. Thought he was really weak on the disallowed goal.

 

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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Agree about the substitution. Remy for a midfielder yes but Campbell for Benteke was a joke.

Our defence looked in trouble from the first attack, Hennessey not the reason we lost but didn't exactly help. Thought he was really weak on the disallowed goal.

Could we have afforded to be without Benteke for our last three games? Don't forget Benteke had been booked so, maybe, Sam was protecting him for our last three games.The ref was so bad it was a possibility.

 


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Originally posted by robdave2k

Go on then - link please.

He's 11th in the 'saves' table. Higher in some & lower in others but overall the numbers place him in the upper half of EPL 'keepers.

I was fairly surprised by some of the figures.

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He just doesn't exude confidence, although the back 4 were abysmal as well which doesn't help, he did though pull off a top save from a header to prevent us going in 2 down before half time.

 

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Originally posted by Nobbybm

He's 11th in the 'saves' table. Higher in some & lower in others but overall the numbers place him in the upper half of EPL 'keepers.

I was fairly surprised by some of the figures.

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Above

De Gea
Courtios
Forster
Lloris

So go on -argue he is better than them.


Artur Boruc is third in that table and he's the only keeper I would outright say is more if an accident waiting to happen than Hennessey.

Now what would be good is a "mistakes" table or "saves other keepers would have made". But that is entirely subjective. But you cannot base it off of saves made and then it's only in context of shots faced!

Edited by robdave2k (30 Apr 2017 9.20am)

 

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I've not argued for or against, just posted a link to the stats.

The numbers would indicate that he's not the car crash some think but it's all subjective. Personally, I think he's an average EPL keeper & that the stats don't tell the whole story- I'd like to see how many shots were faced to know what the real save percentage is.

 


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Originally posted by Dan1994

Made a quality save in the game, and neither goals were his fault...

This is what irks me about people who back Hennessey, the save was hardly quality, it was decent at best but it's a save any premier league goalkeeper should make. It's like when I used to play Sunday league and you'd have that one guy who'd make mistakes week in week out who couldn't hit a barn door so every time he managed to actually kick the ball without falling over everyone would praise him. The fact is Hennessey has been poor for years, this is nothing new and a couple of solid performances here and there don't change that. His mobility is so below the standard required and he just doesn't command confidence at all.

 


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View Dangermouse's Profile Dangermouse Flag Hastings 30 Apr 17 10.31am Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

Hennessey needs replacing, that's just my opinion and not based on yesterday, because he was blameless. In his and the defences defence we have had to reshuffle our defence week after week. Yesterday was our 4th and 5th choice cb's.
Four games ago it was Sakho/Tompkins, then Tompkins/Kelly, then Sakho/Kelly and finally Kelly/Damo, plus the left back changed. Yesterday showed that constant change affects the defence, we were all over the place and we also suffered from what Pardew teams did, an inability to handle a team that came to counter attack.
So yes Hennessey wasn't to blame yesterday, but he terrifies me all the same.

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 30 Apr 17 10.34am

Originally posted by Mstrobez

This is what irks me about people who back Hennessey, the save was hardly quality, it was decent at best but it's a save any premier league goalkeeper should make. It's like when I used to play Sunday league and you'd have that one guy who'd make mistakes week in week out who couldn't hit a barn door so every time he managed to actually kick the ball without falling over everyone would praise him. The fact is Hennessey has been poor for years, this is nothing new and a couple of solid performances here and there don't change that. His mobility is so below the standard required and he just doesn't command confidence at all.

Exactly this. It's pretty f***ing clear that the bloke is useless, as when he does something run of the mill that you'd expect any goalie to do, his supporters are on here going "yeah but he caught that ball well".

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 30 Apr 17 10.46am

Originally posted by Mstrobez

This is what irks me about people who back Hennessey, the save was hardly quality, it was decent at best but it's a save any premier league goalkeeper should make. It's like when I used to play Sunday league and you'd have that one guy who'd make mistakes week in week out who couldn't hit a barn door so every time he managed to actually kick the ball without falling over everyone would praise him. The fact is Hennessey has been poor for years, this is nothing new and a couple of solid performances here and there don't change that. His mobility is so below the standard required and he just doesn't command confidence at all.

Exactly this. It's pretty f***ing clear that the bloke is useless, as when he does something run of the mill that you'd expect any goalie to do, his supporters are on here going "yeah but he caught that ball well".

 


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How was neither goal his fault? First one, he was unlucky but second was dreadful goalkeeping. Goalkeeping 101, don't get beaten at your near post.
I appreciate that supporting players in the stands is a must but Jesus Christ, how anyone can defend Hennessy's performances over the last 2 years on a forum baffles me. He's done nothing to deserve the devotion some fans give him.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Apr 17 11.01am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by ndg01

How was neither goal his fault? First one, he was unlucky but second was dreadful goalkeeping. Goalkeeping 101, don't get beaten at your near post.
I appreciate that supporting players in the stands is a must but Jesus Christ, how anyone can defend Hennessy's performances over the last 2 years on a forum baffles me. He's done nothing to deserve the devotion some fans give him.

I don't believe it is unstinting support and 'Blind' devotion.

Think that many, whilst accepting his weaknesses,believe that some of the criticism has been unwarranted and that that there are those who go out of their way to find fault with every goal he concedes.Seemingly every goal is Hennessey's fault !

As far as I am concerned he has been "Sunshine and showers" but perhaps this could be labelled about many other goalkeepers ! - hopefully he doesn't take time out to read posts about him on HOL !

Edited by Willo (30 Apr 2017 11.02am)

 

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